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    Now that growth through growing is off the table, regionals are, much like their mainline partners, emphasizing cost control. American Eagle parent AMR Corp. used the cloak of bankruptcy to help cut the regional arm's aircraft costs. AMR returned 18 Embraer ERJ 135s and cut a sale-and-leaseback deal on 21 more, with terms that end this year. It also slashed lease payments 49% on its 58-plane ERJ 140 fleet and cut leases on 68 of its 118 ERJ 145s by 34%.

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    Do you think AAG will really get rid of their regionals? Why would they do anything different than what UAL and DAL are doing?

    Both UAL and DAL have a greater amount of flying outsourced than AAG. A big problem for "growth" is the lack of pilots. There are several ways to mitigate that problem, but I do expect all the mainlines and regionals to shrink a bit. Larger airplanes, less frequency and, yes, PBS, allows airline management to move the same number of passengers with less pilots.

    Two E-175s move the same number of passengers as three E-145s....and with 1/3 less pilots. Does that mean pilots need to fear for their jobs? No. Anyone who is a pilot here, at any regional and any mainline will have job security for at least 10 years. What they might not have is quick upgrades or transitions. At least not at the regionals.

    All regional FOs are best adivsed to get their resumes together and start pushing hard at some career airline. Those jobs are there and coming.

    It is NOT the job of the regional pilot unions to worry about pilot recruitment or shiny new airplanes. Mainline, and subsequently Regional, airline managers need their feed and the regionals to help offset cots. It's their problem to hire pilots and make billion dollar purchases of the equipment to do the job. The job of our Union is to negotiate fair pay and benefits. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOtPilot View Post
    Now that growth through growing is off the table, regionals are, much like their mainline partners, emphasizing cost control. American Eagle parent AMR Corp. used the cloak of bankruptcy to help cut the regional arm's aircraft costs. AMR returned 18 Embraer ERJ 135s and cut a sale-and-leaseback deal on 21 more, with terms that end this year. It also slashed lease payments 49% on its 58-plane ERJ 140 fleet and cut leases on 68 of its 118 ERJ 145s by 34%.
    This is for you... 4thQ 2013

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    So basically all of us air regional combined equal what envoy was last year in fleet and flights +\-5%

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardvark View Post
    So basically all of us air regional combined equal what envoy was last year in fleet and flights +\-5%
    AAG use 10 regional airlines to feed. And couldn't fine anybody. So, they had to go to compass trying to find someone to fly their planes, but compass is not part of the 10. They don't have anybody only bluffs.

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    No offense No OT, but sometimes I question your mental capacity and stability...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIGHTWINGMAN View Post
    No offense No OT, but sometimes I question your mental capacity and stability...
    Don't feel bad, sometimes I question the same thing!

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