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    AA will retire more aircraft than Delta.


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    Delta Fleet Update:
    Delta Air Lines…“aggressive” 2020 retirements of over 220 aircraft in their fleet…
    -July 2021-

    But AA keep blocking that information from you.

    “It’s time”…to simplify the fleet.

    The Big question is…with no International flying, no business travel, no government money and full recovery two years from now…
    What are AA staffing requirements going to be starting September 1, 2021?

    A) 15,000
    B) 13,000
    C) 11,000
    D) 9,000
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    11000. Maybe less

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    With 110 planes less than a year ago, more on the way to be retired and “0” deliveries announced…“less” might be the correct answer.

    2021 is in Full Force

    “Looking into the second half of the year, American Airlines said it sees third quarter capacity falling between 15% and 20% from 2019 levels, with revenues down 20% as well, but declined to predict a return to pre-tax profitability by the close of 2021.”

    “With more than $1 billion in federal payroll support…Adjusting for one-time items, American had a loss of $1.1 billion.”

    Maybe:
    D) 9,000 is the best answer.

    Don’t get too exited if you are about to flow…
    companies are using the flow to lower their payroll, just in time as the government money runs out.

    “It’s time”…to negotiate contracts!
    Last edited by NoOtPilot; 07-24-2021 at 03:28 AM.

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    continued from same AA newsletter:

    Pilot hiring resumes, more planned for 2022
    Our previous hiring expectations are increasing — we intend to hire 350 new pilots by the end of year and now anticipate hiring more than 1,000 pilots in 2022. New hire classes resume in September and will include flow-through pilots from Envoy, Piedmont and PSA, as well as pilots who were hired at the onset of the pandemic, but were idled as we paused our recruiting and hiring efforts. Though we were limited in pilot growth this past year, we are now moving full speed ahead with plans to continue recruiting, hiring and training the best and most diverse pilots in the business. The online application for new hire pilots opens tomorrow and can be accessed at aa.pilotcredentials.com.

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    Planned vs Actual numbers…history tends to repeat itself.

    AA Actual fleet keeps shrinking…down to 854[*]from 964 they had in 2020. More will be retired.
    [*] Excludes 37 Boeing 737-800 mainline aircraft that are in temporary storage at June 30, 2021.

    American is committed to improving its balance sheet. American plans to accomplish this objective…using cash instead of debt for certain future aircraft deliveries.

    https://www.marketplace.org/2018/11/...s-it-worth-it/

    2001 pilots were furlough twice.

    AA will be a powerhouse after 2023, but not 15,000 pilots or 964 planes. If you wonder about the new fleet… go back to AA’s fleet before the US Air merger.

    In their announcements they will tell you what you want to hear, but in the facts you will find what you need to know.
    Last edited by NoOtPilot; 07-24-2021 at 04:28 PM.

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