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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo View Post
    I know it is a industry wide statement, and I also know Omni does a much better job of training with the automation off than Atlas and it shows on the line. I sadly have many new hires that by 1200 feet AP is on and hand is already off the yoke.
    oh wow.... yeah, that wouldn’t go over well here. We’re required that the PF has hands on yoke/throttle under 10k AGL anyway, so taking hands off would be a huge no-no. Hand flying for us is not at all out of the ordinary. If it’s a crappy day and you’re working the radar and stuff, you’ll see guys use the automation more.

    we still do a pretty real sim eval on interviews too and lots of guys get cut right there.

    our new sim does hard/bounce really well, the compressor stalls at max are crazy.... after pushback, if you flash the taxi light, the lineman salutes then walks off... it’s a trip. The bird strikes are even cool, you can watch the flock on the visual before they hit.

    did I say that I love my job?
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    I fly the airbus now and almost always hand fly to FL180. Just to keep that connection and confidence up. I have had one Captian admonish me for not turning on the ap after takeoff. I think he was just lazy and didn’t want to spin the altitude preselect.

    Fast forward to a departure out of SBA when at about 100kts everything dumped. Speeds, altitudes, vnav and lnav. Way too short to abort I just hand flew the aircraft and there was never a doubt as to how it would react. The only new part for me was no autothrottles. Aside from missing the first turn, I was unsure if the captain had gotten runway heading in all the chaos, and the turn was still depicted on the ND no issues at all.

    I was so thankful for all my time that I had spent hand-flying. And as much as I enjoyed the 175 I learned so much more from the 145.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdflyer View Post
    I fly the airbus now and almost always hand fly to FL180. Just to keep that connection and confidence up. I have had one Captian admonish me for not turning on the ap after takeoff. I think he was just lazy and didn’t want to spin the altitude preselect.

    Fast forward to a departure out of SBA when at about 100kts everything dumped. Speeds, altitudes, vnav and lnav. Way too short to abort I just hand flew the aircraft and there was never a doubt as to how it would react. The only new part for me was no autothrottles. Aside from missing the first turn, I was unsure if the captain had gotten runway heading in all the chaos, and the turn was still depicted on the ND no issues at all.

    I was so thankful for all my time that I had spent hand-flying. And as much as I enjoyed the 175 I learned so much more from the 145.
    there just isn’t any suitable substitute for remaining and maintaining our proficiency. It’s the mark of a professional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdflyer View Post
    I fly the airbus now and almost always hand fly to FL180. Just to keep that connection and confidence up. I have had one Captian admonish me for not turning on the ap after takeoff. I think he was just lazy and didn’t want to spin the altitude preselect.

    Fast forward to a departure out of SBA when at about 100kts everything dumped. Speeds, altitudes, vnav and lnav. Way too short to abort I just hand flew the aircraft and there was never a doubt as to how it would react. The only new part for me was no autothrottles. Aside from missing the first turn, I was unsure if the captain had gotten runway heading in all the chaos, and the turn was still depicted on the ND no issues at all.

    I was so thankful for all my time that I had spent hand-flying. And as much as I enjoyed the 175 I learned so much more from the 145.
    I'm glad you enjoyed the 175. That aircraft has truly been THE game changer for AAG and Envoy. A mainline sized aircraft that many have trouble distinguishing from a Bus or 73. The cadets do super well on both aircraft but truly excel on this bird. I don't think it's any secret that some of the more senior guys struggle to make the transition over to the heavy. The cadets on the other hand all breeze through as they've been trained for it from the time they go on the payroll as an instructor. Literally and figuratively it's the same as flying a Bus or Boeing. In the not too distant future, I can totally see Envoy with a 250 strong 175 fleet. (Wink, wink) Talk about your behemoths.

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    I flown with some of those cadets and most did very well until something went wrong. Then they end up way behind and struggling without the aid of the automation

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    The new arbitrated Atlas CBA while not industry leading in pay rates, still managed to get some decent contract language. The arbitrator took blended rates from Kalitta, Omni, ATI & ABX to come up with their new rates. So, while not industry leading, they are right up there with everybody else now. As predicted, it's turning out to be a great career opportunity all on it's own. With the way their lines are built and the rigs, there are plenty of 175% days. Not uncommon to see new hires getting $205ph.

    A great opportunity for regional guys to get out and up. They'll realize how bad "The Voy" really was once they get online anywhere else outside the regionals.

    A regional pilots number one job should be getting out of the regionals.

    Kalitta, Atlas, ATI, ABX, are all hiring. Even iAero, Kalitta Charters II (737's), and Western Global are hiring and have become decent jobs. Newer places like Eastern Airlines, and National Airlines are growing fast and starting to be real jobs too. Both National and Eastern are poised to double in size within a year, so anybody getting on now will be a wide body Captain in short order.

    There are just so many better places to build hours and experience than suffering at the regionals. Some of them are now legitimate careers of their own.
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    The Omni Application window is open

    Job Information: First Officer Job (appone.com)


    1st year - $128ph
    Top step FO - $201.17ph

    CA top step $297.72ph

    16 days plus 1 override day
    the 16 days can be either one large block or two smaller blocks. The override day is at the beginning or end of a block of days, and if they use you, it goes above minimum guarantee. It is pretty rare for them to use it.

    Plan on 25 to 45 hours of block per month (including IRO time), min guarantee is 64 hours
    There are lines with 70-80 hours, but they tend to go a bit more senior. I could hold them at 3 years seniority, but honestly, reserve at home is better.

    Positive space to/from work and you keep the air miles, becoming executive platinum and all that on multiple carriers quickly. Take the family on vacations without flying standby and get first class.

    We also keep most hotel points too; so when you go on vacation just use your points.

    No crashpads, ever. Once you leave your house you get hotels everywhere. Transportation in most areas is by contracted van service, hotel vans in others, and occasionally you see the guy standing in the black suit holding an iPad with your name on it near the escalator. If all else fails, you have a company Uber account they let you add to your Uber App.

    Ever arrived and travel screwed up your reservation? No problem, plunk down the company credit card and let them figure it out while you go to sleep instead of waiting around 2 hours on a snow day.....

    The long haul and being away longer trips isn't for everybody; but if you can make it work, it's the easiest, no stress job I've ever had.

    Disclaimer - I worked mostly in a special program where we did Honolulu and Las Vegas mostly. My time doing reserve in general population was only the first 6 months, and the year during covid until December when I went into the training department. Been all over the planet including the sandpit and the far east. Lets just say nobody is getting beaten to death here. Most days are 1 leg and done. There is the rare 24 hour deahead from one side of the planet to the other, but you can request to break it up and get a hotel. That typically only happens on the flight home at the end of duty, so most folks just sleep in the first class lay flats and go home. My worst day here was still better than the best day at Envoy.

    Atlas is hiring also, and in spite of the grumbling about not getting a good enough arbitrated deal (they didn't) it's still a great place to work too. Any questions about them, ask Gonzo on this forum; he's a great source of info. The nice thing about them is if you bid 767 or 737 you can stay domestic. I wish we had that option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
    The Omni Application window is open

    Job Information: First Officer Job (appone.com)


    1st year - $128ph
    Top step FO - $201.17ph

    CA top step $297.72ph

    16 days plus 1 override day
    the 16 days can be either one large block or two smaller blocks. The override day is at the beginning or end of a block of days, and if they use you, it goes above minimum guarantee. It is pretty rare for them to use it.

    Plan on 25 to 45 hours of block per month (including IRO time), min guarantee is 64 hours
    There are lines with 70-80 hours, but they tend to go a bit more senior. I could hold them at 3 years seniority, but honestly, reserve at home is better.

    Positive space to/from work and you keep the air miles, becoming executive platinum and all that on multiple carriers quickly. Take the family on vacations without flying standby and get first class.

    We also keep most hotel points too; so when you go on vacation just use your points.

    No crashpads, ever. Once you leave your house you get hotels everywhere. Transportation in most areas is by contracted van service, hotel vans in others, and occasionally you see the guy standing in the black suit holding an iPad with your name on it near the escalator. If all else fails, you have a company Uber account they let you add to your Uber App.

    Ever arrived and travel screwed up your reservation? No problem, plunk down the company credit card and let them figure it out while you go to sleep instead of waiting around 2 hours on a snow day.....

    The long haul and being away longer trips isn't for everybody; but if you can make it work, it's the easiest, no stress job I've ever had.

    Disclaimer - I worked mostly in a special program where we did Honolulu and Las Vegas mostly. My time doing reserve in general population was only the first 6 months, and the year during covid until December when I went into the training department. Been all over the planet including the sandpit and the far east. Lets just say nobody is getting beaten to death here. Most days are 1 leg and done. There is the rare 24 hour deahead from one side of the planet to the other, but you can request to break it up and get a hotel. That typically only happens on the flight home at the end of duty, so most folks just sleep in the first class lay flats and go home. My worst day here was still better than the best day at Envoy.

    Atlas is hiring also, and in spite of the grumbling about not getting a good enough arbitrated deal (they didn't) it's still a great place to work too. Any questions about them, ask Gonzo on this forum; he's a great source of info. The nice thing about them is if you bid 767 or 737 you can stay domestic. I wish we had that option.
    This is quite possibly the most pathetic post I've ever seen from you. It just reeks of your desperation to be at AA.

    297 an hour. Blah blah blah. Keep your hotel points. Blah blah blah. Business class travel. Blah blah blah.

    Well, I think you get my point. If you aren't aware, the hiring window has busted wide open just as I predicted. American Airlines is flowing and hiring pilots in crazy numbers we haven't seen in our careers. Ever. An Envoy pilot hired today will upgrade within 2 years and be at American in 6. It's that simple.

    It's a great time to be an Envoy pilot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    This is quite possibly the most pathetic post I've ever seen from you. It just reeks of your desperation to be at AA.

    297 an hour. Blah blah blah. Keep your hotel points. Blah blah blah. Business class travel. Blah blah blah.

    Well, I think you get my point. If you aren't aware, the hiring window has busted wide open just as I predicted. American Airlines is flowing and hiring pilots in crazy numbers we haven't seen in our careers. Ever. An Envoy pilot hired today will upgrade within 2 years and be at American in 6. It's that simple.

    It's a great time to be an Envoy pilot.
    for new pilots starting out? It would be a ridiculously stupid time to be an Envoy pilot. More are being street hired than flowing. They’d be better off going to Frontier or Spirit who are already hiring brand new ATP’s and then apply to Delta, United and AA while at a real job.

    for guys currently at the regionals; get out before the contraction, mergers, consolidation and stagnation.
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