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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
    13-15 per plane was pre 117. It’s closer to 20 per plane at most currently. 18 if they schedule aggressively.
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    In a message yesterday, Robert Isom stated that as a result of the significant reductions we’ve made to our April schedule, we would be parking approximately 130 of our widebody aircraft and 320 of our narrowbodies. What wasn’t clear in the statement is that the 320 narrowbodies is inclusive of RJs. We are not parking 320 mainline narrowbody planes. Our apologies for any misunderstanding that may have caused.

    Based on the current April schedule and considering the 55,000 plus flight cancelled in April so far, we will be flying approximately 450 fewer aircraft across our mainline and regional fleets. However, we are not placing any narrowbody aircraft in storage at this time. Instead, we will be moving those aircraft to various parking locations, so they are available as spares and ready if and when needed.

    We take Scope very seriously. Schedule changes – even in these unprecedented times – don’t change that.

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    Everyone will be parking metal.
    Here, the 20 compass planes will be idled but going through heavy checks, bridging/ certificate compliance checks, and installation of power ports. 140/145 hulls already scheduled to be parked in the second and third quarter will be headed for the desert sooner than planned.
    Not sure about the other carriers, but I’m pretty sure there’ll be news out soon with everyone’s numbers.

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    It would seem Envoy then has three options for pilot staffing with a smaller fleet, especially considering there will be virtually zero attrition now almost overnight.

    A. Negotiate leave provisions like many other carriers.
    B. Operate with an overage of pilots.
    C Furlough and displace.

    Sounds like A. is a non-starter at least for the time being, so that would seem to leave B. or C. If (and that's IF) they choose B., the question then is for how long?

    Again, from one "lost decade" survivor to what might be the newest club members (all affected pilots potentially facing either a pay cut or unemployment), what's in your savings account?

    It likely won't be a decade (hopefully), but could very well be an uncomfortably long visit. At any rate, I think it clear the past AA flow/advancement mirage many had assumed was bulletproof has effectively vaporized. The good news is Walmart has announced they will hire 150,000 people, so total unemployement for some will be avoidable.
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    Smaller fleet? Really? How about those 20 175s coming from CPZ? Sure, a few older 140/145s will be parked but in the end, fleet count should go up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    Smaller fleet? Really? How about those 20 175s coming from CPZ? Sure, a few older 140/145s will be parked but in the end, fleet count should go up.
    In the short-term, the fleet will drop. But, if Chapter 11 is AA’s destination (HIGH probability), then IMO, you are likely correct in that the fleet will increase. Primary reason?

    AA Scope trashed.

    Of course, that will be disastrous for junior AA and those who wanted to flow to AA. What are your thought’s on being an E-195 F/O in the future with present pay and working conditions for regional F/O’s? In the future, we will be back to an overage of unemployed pilots for awhile and thus skin-flint airline managers like that at Envoy will have no need to throw money at them to get them.

    But hey......on the good side, think of all the physical pleasure you’ll be able to give yourself actually touching your flying fantasy? It’s just a suggestion, but as a favor to your future E-jet captain’s, you might want to consider packing more tissues on your future trips.

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