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    ďSo far this year, we have taken delivery of 13 new Embraer 175s, hired over 300 new pilots, upgraded almost 200 new Captains...

    Between now and the end of the year, we will take delivery of 7 new Embraer 175s, hire another 300 new pilots, upgrade another 200 new Captains...

    American Airlines plans to double the number of E-140/145 daily departures out of JFK starting this November.

    ...but hopefully it provides some insight to AAGs planned distribution of our operation for the remainder of this year.Ē

    Thanks, it did!

    And you can clearly see Envoy continues to shrink!
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    Any stats on attrition vs. hiring ? Dacuj was endlessly trumpeting explosive expansion to 3000+ pilots at Envoy in the near future.

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    Nope, but ENY MEC Chairman is 95 numbers away from flowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOtPilot View Post
    Nope, but ENY MEC Chairman is 95 numbers away from flowing.
    And after him the pilots will get someone who will sell everything for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v1rotate View Post
    And after him the pilots will get someone who will sell everything for anything.
    And still in probation!

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    V1, thats everything for nothing.

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    Should hire a chairman from outside the company who isn’t afraid if losing their job for fighting too hard and pissing them off. I still swear it was the calling Glass a jackass that did me in. They called the MEC office threatening a rule 32 if I didn’t delete it and print an apology. Told them hell no, it wasn’t being deleted, and that if anybody asks, I’m going to continue providing my honest opinion. He’s a jackass. That pretty much ended that phone call.... and several months later they started their repetitively fired crap.

    then again, it could have been telling Wilson to his face in a crowded meeting room that he’s wrecked every unit, division, section, or program that he’s touched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
    Should hire a chairman from outside the company who isn’t afraid if losing their job for fighting too hard and pissing them off. I still swear it was the calling Glass a jackass that did me in. They called the MEC office threatening a rule 32 if I didn’t delete it and print an apology. Told them hell no, it wasn’t being deleted, and that if anybody asks, I’m going to continue providing my honest opinion. He’s a jackass. That pretty much ended that phone call.... and several months later they started their repetitively fired crap.

    then again, it could have been telling Wilson to his face in a crowded meeting room that he’s wrecked every unit, division, section, or program that he’s touched.
    Oh yeah. Talk all big and bad like you some kind of legend. A legend in your own mind perhaps. That will never work for American Airlines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    Oh yeah. Talk all big and bad like you some kind of legend. A legend in your own mind perhaps. That will never work for American Airlines.
    I was wondering how long it would take you to turn your Dolphins cap backwards again. LOL !

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    Is dacuj not a legend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    Oh yeah. Talk all big and bad like you some kind of legend. A legend in your own mind perhaps. That will never work for American Airlines.
    No, I just walk the walk. I donít pull punches, and I donít kiss up to management. Thereís nothing Iíve ever said online that I wouldnít and didnít say to their faces. It certainly did not endear me to them. I really didnít, and still donít, care. They were wrong then and the same fools are wrecking the place 3 years after Iíve gone.
    Now they have sycophants like you pretend war heroís out trying to defend their ineptitude and gross negligence. You couldnít fight your way out of a wet paper bag with an exacto blade in your back pocket. Go back to your safe space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
    No, I just walk the walk. I donít pull punches, and I donít kiss up to management. Thereís nothing Iíve ever said online that I wouldnít and didnít say to their faces. It certainly did not endear me to them. I really didnít, and still donít, care. They were wrong then and the same fools are wrecking the place 3 years after Iíve gone.
    Now they have sycophants like you pretend war heroís out trying to defend their ineptitude and gross negligence. You couldnít fight your way out of a wet paper bag with an exacto blade in your back pocket. Go back to your safe space.
    This is pathetic. You don't even work here yet consistently show up here with some nugget you think a "source" has notified you about and then allay a bit of it but you can't share it all due to not being comfortable or NDA or whatever. Remember. YOU DONT EVEN WORK HERE! Just like you do on the Via and Omni threads. Pathetic career stops by the way. Get yourself a life. You've done enough damage here thank you.

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    Hey Dacuj, welcome back, we missed you!

    Would you like to explain why the 118 PPís will flow in 2019, the L10-11 (150 @15/month) will flow in 2020 and after that the rest of the pilots flow @ 5 a month?

    The recruiters standard answer when asked about the 5 pilots a month after the L10-11 group is...

    ďwe never go to 5 a month. we have 150 pilots that will go @ 15 a month then it jumps back up to the 23 a month.Ē

    Donít believe me? Ask a recruiter! But hurry up, they are flowing and going to other airlines soon!
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    First, dacuj you dont wotk here so blow.
    Second, it will never reach 23 under the correct agreed formula.
    Third, where the f is my pay raise, retro to may 15 2018.

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    ďThe flow rate is 25% of the new hire class at AA with a company cap of 5 plus 1 pilot for every 125 pilots over 480 on our list per month that may be waived by the company.Ē

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinsol0 View Post
    ďThe flow rate is 25% of the new hire class at AA with a company cap of 5 plus 1 pilot for every 125 pilots over 480 on our list per month that may be waived by the company.Ē
    🤣🤣🤣see how easy it is to bring you back out of your Silence.🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Rookie!

    But, thanks for another standard answer from the Recuitment Dept. 2021 keeps getting closer and nobody can stop that!

    You guys are so easy to manipulate, just like you manipulate the new hires, management manipulates you and AAG manipulates Pedro.

    Business as usual Doug Parker WILL Succeed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    This is pathetic. You don't even work here yet consistently show up here with some nugget you think a "source" has notified you about and then allay a bit of it but you can't share it all due to not being comfortable or NDA or whatever. Remember. YOU DONT EVEN WORK HERE! Just like you do on the Via and Omni threads. Pathetic career stops by the way. Get yourself a life. You've done enough damage here thank you.
    Guess it never dawned on your pea sized brain that since I no longer work there; I'm completely free to speak the truth without fear of workplace reprisals. I hear more dirt now than before. You think I was a thorn in their side before? Quick, go tell your masters they better buckle up....

    now, run along....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    This is pathetic. You don't even work here yet consistently show up here with some nugget you think a "source" has notified you about and then allay a bit of it but you can't share it all due to not being comfortable or NDA or whatever. Remember. YOU DONT EVEN WORK HERE! Just like you do on the Via and Omni threads. Pathetic career stops by the way. Get yourself a life. You've done enough damage here thank you.
    Speaking of pathetic, you too don’t even work here, yet consistently show up with some turd of wisdom berating others for the very thing you too are guilty of. To reiterate, YOU DON’T EVEN WORK HERE !

    .....and no, you are not more “special” then anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagleboy View Post
    Speaking of pathetic, you too don’t even work here, yet consistently show up with some turd of wisdom berating others for the very thing you too are guilty of. To reiterate, YOU DON’T EVEN WORK HERE !

    .....and no, you are not more “special” then anyone else.
    You have to understand Dacju mindset....envoy pilots ARE AA pilots the day that they are hired, so in his mind he still works here.

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    That boy has psychological issues

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