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    A new pilot hired today is projected to flow to American in just under 6 years. Why leave your career up to chance?iDEX5uz.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    A new pilot hired today is projected to flow to American in just under 6 years. Why leave your career up to chance?iDEX5uz.jpg
    “Chance” and ANY claim of timing of flow to AA are synonymous. “Chance” and ANY assumption of career advancement at AA based on retirements are synonymous. QWL for pilots for the foreseeable future at AA compared to Delta, United and Southwest is well beyond chance, that is a certainty.

    That certainty is NO CHANCE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagleboy View Post
    “Chance” and ANY claim of timing of flow to AA are synonymous. “Chance” and ANY assumption of career advancement at AA based on retirements are synonymous. QWL for pilots for the foreseeable future at AA compared to Delta, United and Southwest is well beyond chance, that is a certainty.

    That certainty is NO CHANCE.
    Puttin' out that big time JEALOUSY vibe. Oh yeah. Just wishing you could be a new hire at Envoy now and your career wasn't over. After all, you would be flowing to AA in just under 6 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    Puttin' out that big time JEALOUSY vibe. Oh yeah. Just wishing you could be a new hire at Envoy now and your career wasn't over. After all, you would be flowing to AA in just under 6 years.
    But my career isn’t over. I have the wonderful opportunity to serve the customers of AA while at the same time taking care of my pilots at AA like you !

    Why aren’t you thanking me for my efforts ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    A new pilot hired today is projected to flow to American in just under 6 years. Why leave your career up to chance?iDEX5uz.jpg
    Yes, why leave it to chance ? If there's one thing about flowing to AA, it's certainty on at least one level.

    To wit, the latest word is there isn't much hope of a competitive career. Contract negotiations with management this week apparently went over like a fart in an elevator with management basically offering zero on anything and they are only discussing the more ancillary items as opposed to core issues. Obviously, it's the same old game of "kick the can". Looking at the future, there is little hope AA pilots will EVER match the industries leaders in pilot compensation, QWL and treatment. Delta, United and Southwest will simply be in another league for the foreseeable future (and likely forever) and AA pilots will have to set their sights more on Spirit, Jet Blue and Allegiant as their realistic peers as far as contractual provisions go. Since Envoy is also likely to be "also ran's" in the same dept., future Envoy flows should be well versed in being bottom feeders in the airline pilot world. Flowing to AA ? Think Envoy on steroids.

    Even though it's not surprising, it's still sad and disappointing. What's in your wallet ? More importantly, what WILL be in your wallet ?

    Caveat Emptor.
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