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    SAV, TYS, PNS scheduled to begin next January.

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    Just like I said, now the company starts playing HARDBALL with ENY MEC...so predictable. Could this be the beginning of Regionals Consolidation?
    Which of the 3 CEO’s will survive?
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    Perhaps they see that they won’t be able to staff Envoy as desired in the future ? If the no-show’s continue and the bail-out’s increase, it would only be expected to shift more flying elsewhere. I wonder if some of those in that long line supposedly beating down the doors at Envoy’s training center are mannequins ?

    Still waiting to see what fallout occurs at AA with the supposed reduction in pilots and the big training logjam imminent with the displacement of 300+ pilots in one bid. That will occur in the fall, but it could result in many hundreds more downstream displacements putting a lot of pilots in the bubble at the same time. Can they add 80-100 newbies to that and shrink their pilots by hundreds at the same time ?

    Bada Bing, Bada Boom..........but, maybe not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagleboy View Post
    Perhaps they see that they won’t be able to staff Envoy as desired in the future ? If the no-show’s continue and the bail-out’s increase, it would only be expected to shift more flying elsewhere. I wonder if some of those in that long line supposedly beating down the doors at Envoy’s training center are mannequins ?

    Still waiting to see what fallout occurs at AA with the supposed reduction in pilots and the big training logjam imminent with the displacement of 300+ pilots in one bid. That will occur in the fall, but it could result in many hundreds more downstream displacements putting a lot of pilots in the bubble at the same time. Can they add 80-100 newbies to that and shrink their pilots by hundreds at the same time ?

    Bada Bing, Bada Boom..........but, maybe not.

    Could that be “a temporary leave of employees due to special needs of a company, which may be due to economic conditions at the specific employer”?
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    Psa cant cover it's own schedules now. But dont worry aag has your back, yeap knife on the way. Enjoy 6-8 years of torture for flow .

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    More good news will be out when they update the flights tomorrow, see who is going where.
    wait it is the 13th, And republic got the mia to okc and xna. We probably got a Killeen or grr turn
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    Quote Originally Posted by ardvark View Post
    Psa cant cover it's own schedules now. But dont worry aag has your back, yeap knife on the way. Enjoy 6-8 years of torture for flow .
    So you admit the flow is 6 years now? Good for you. You aren't as dumb as I once thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    So you admit the flow is 6 years now? Good for you. You aren't as dumb as I once thought.
    For the ones hired in 2015, yep. It’s been going up ever since. The advertising of 5.5 year flow is only for a small window of guys that were hired right after the 2nd concession CBA. The continued use of that 5.5 number is false advertising.

    I supported Ted the initial claims of 2.5/5.5 because the math supported it, even in spite of the naysayers. Likewise, I no longer support the 5.5 because the math no longer supports it. In other words, AAG is now lying and false advertising.

    Whens the last time you saw a spiffy little chart showing the percentage of AA new hires from Envoy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
    For the ones hired in 2015, yep. It’s been going up ever since. The advertising of 5.5 year flow is only for a small window of guys that were hired right after the 2nd concession CBA. The continued use of that 5.5 number is false advertising.

    I supported Ted the initial claims of 2.5/5.5 because the math supported it, even in spite of the naysayers. Likewise, I no longer support the 5.5 because the math no longer supports it. In other words, AAG is now lying and false advertising.

    Whens the last time you saw a spiffy little chart showing the percentage of AA new hires from Envoy?
    And let’s not forget that between 2014-2015 there are 170 Piedmont Captains, and in the event of a merge they will flow before some Envoy pilots, if they get date of hire, delaying the time to flow for our guys.
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    I said 6- 8 years, I have been saying for years that the majority will flow within that time frame maybe,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
    For the ones hired in 2015, yep. It’s been going up ever since. The advertising of 5.5 year flow is only for a small window of guys that were hired right after the 2nd concession CBA. The continued use of that 5.5 number is false advertising.

    I supported Ted the initial claims of 2.5/5.5 because the math supported it, even in spite of the naysayers. Likewise, I no longer support the 5.5 because the math no longer supports it. In other words, AAG is now lying and false advertising.

    Whens the last time you saw a spiffy little chart showing the percentage of AA new hires from Envoy?
    Wrong again Mr. Negative. Now it is IMMEDIATE upgrade if you have the time or at worst, 2 years and a flow to AA in about 6 years or so. I've got a feeling the flow numbers are going up soon and that will keep the flow engine chugging.

    Didn't have that little nugget when you were out there alongside me extolling the virtues of Envoy.

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    Huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    Wrong again Mr. Negative. Now it is IMMEDIATE upgrade if you have the time or at worst, 2 years and a flow to AA in about 6 years or so. I've got a feeling the flow numbers are going up soon and that will keep the flow engine chugging.

    Didn't have that little nugget when you were out there alongside me extolling the virtues of Envoy.
    So, why the RTP program and Street Captains was quietly shut down?
    Safety or inexperience and weaknesses on a
    head-on collision course?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirsnacksalot View Post
    Huh?
    Forget it.......he’s rolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOtPilot View Post
    So, why the RTP program and Street Captains hiring was shut down? Safety?
    Dacuj’s topic of tomorrow will be how the German’s bombed Pearl Harbor.

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    The flow does not work, if it did there would be no bonus money. But it appears flow only works with a lot of bonus money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOtPilot View Post
    So, why the RTP program and Street Captains was quietly shut down?
    Safety or inexperience and weaknesses on a
    head-on collision course?
    Factually incorrect, and once again you have no proof to back up your outright lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinsol0 View Post
    Factually incorrect, and once again you have no proof to back up your outright lies.
    Thank you. He's nothing more than someone who "thinks" he knows everything. I've caught him in numerous lies and factually incorrect statements.

    "Tic Toc 2021 man" YEAH! Sure dude. W H A T E V E R!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinsol0 View Post
    Factually incorrect, and once again you have no proof to back up your outright lies.
    If you had access to their resumes, you will see, not only their experience but also the proof to back it up. BTW, in 6 months you are not going to be able to sell the flow at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    Thank you. He's nothing more than someone who "thinks" he knows everything. I've caught him in numerous lies and factually incorrect statements.

    "Tic Toc 2021 man" YEAH! Sure dude. W H A T E V E R!!!!
    Dacuj, is the displacement bid in AA going to stop the flow this year? Heard it is a BIG DISPLACEMENT BID. Would you like to elaborate?
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