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    Daniel Carey, president of the Allied Pilots Association, said the union wants American to reduce its practice of shifting on-duty pilots to fill in for others who call in sick, can't legally handle a flight because of crew-rest requirements, or other reasons.

    Rescheduling is a frequent subject of complaints among American's pilots. Carey said it leads to delays or canceled flights. American's operation, he said, "is not running as well as it should be."
    Through August, nearly 24 percent of flights on American and American Eagle have arrived at least 15 minutes late, the worst record among the four largest U.S. airlines, according to government figures. American is on pace for its lowest on-time rating since 2014.

    "Sentiment on (American) may be as bad as it's been since the shares started trading in 2013. To some, the situation feels hopeless," Wolfe Research analyst Hunter Keay wrote recently in a note to clients.

    Keay blamed the bearish outlook on thin profit margins, high debt and lack of free cash flow. He also called on American to fix its operation, even if it costs money.

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    Ain't gonna happen if money is involved in the solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardvark View Post
    Ain't gonna happen if money is involved in the solution.
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    I forgot to add at the end of my original statement above, [ unless apa plays aag ball on scope. That's the only way money will be included in any discussions. ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOtPilot View Post
    Daniel Carey, president of the Allied Pilots Association, said the union wants American to reduce its practice of shifting on-duty pilots to fill in for others who call in sick, can't legally handle a flight because of crew-rest requirements, or other reasons.

    Rescheduling is a frequent subject of complaints among American's pilots. Carey said it leads to delays or canceled flights. American's operation, he said, "is not running as well as it should be."
    Through August, nearly 24 percent of flights on American and American Eagle have arrived at least 15 minutes late, the worst record among the four largest U.S. airlines, according to government figures. American is on pace for its lowest on-time rating since 2014.

    "Sentiment on (American) may be as bad as it's been since the shares started trading in 2013. To some, the situation feels hopeless," Wolfe Research analyst Hunter Keay wrote recently in a note to clients.

    Keay blamed the bearish outlook on thin profit margins, high debt and lack of free cash flow. He also called on American to fix its operation, even if it costs money.

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    Pilots bid for trips with PBS, but frequently end up reassigned to totally a different trip somewhere along the way once their originally bid trip started. Actually, this practice is carried over from Eagle, it just matastisized to AA like a cancer. “Thin profit margins, High debt and lack of free cash flow” - Three of the EXACT issues I’ve mentioned only to be labeled as the rantings of a bitter old man spewing non-facts by the TalkAirline knuckle-draggers.

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    Just wondering...

    Is APA...
    The New ALPA?

    Are Flow/Regional pilots majority in AA now?

    Is ALPA National patiently waiting to make a move?

    Is APA as strong as it used to be on their glory days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOtPilot View Post
    Just wondering...

    Is APA...
    The New ALPA?

    Are Flow/Regional pilots majority in AA now?

    Is ALPA National patiently waiting to make a move?

    Is APA as strong as it used to be on their glory days?
    APA was never really "strong". History shows they have stumbled their way along repeatedly. There was the B-scale disaster, they got fleeced by AMR on the RJ issue resulting in what they thought would be 67 jets and turned into hundreds and they coughed up millions for rocking the boat and getting a judge seasick, just to name a few issues. After BK, they agreed to Swiss cheese language in their contract that is being exploited daily and are rife with politics that in the past had them "selling" a "last, best and final offer" that wasn't and now is bogged down with conflicting politics among the BOD due in part to the differences in philosophy between former LAA and US Airways reps. To cap it off, the membership is among the most risk averse pilot group in the industry due in part to age.

    APA (both leadership and membership) are not roaming the range conquering all in their path like Lord Humungus and his tribe of marauders. IMO in the future, AA pilots will have some tough choices to make if they want any contractual improvements as Dollar Store Doug won't give them for nothing.
    Last edited by Beagleboy; 12-01-2018 at 05:04 PM.

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