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    From 2010 to date, 56% of flows to American Airlines have come from Envoy. A little factoid for the naysayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    From 2010 to date, 56% of flows to American Airlines have come from Envoy. A little factoid for the naysayers.
    Yet envoy is more then double the size of PDT and PSA, but we we only get a tad above 50% of the flows.

    Should be a higher percentage.....plus what are the hire dates of the PDT and PSA flows compared to the envoy flows?

    What is the percentage compared to ALL new hires? lost seniority waiting for the flow is a bigger factor.


    True facts would be nice if you are going to be throwing factoids out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiz5422 View Post
    Yet envoy is more then double the size of PDT and PSA, but we we only get a tad above 50% of the flows.

    Should be a higher percentage.....plus what are the hire dates of the PDT and PSA flows compared to the envoy flows?

    What is the percentage compared to ALL new hires? lost seniority waiting for the flow is a bigger factor.


    True facts would be nice if you are going to be throwing factoids out.
    What would be nice is if you and your buddies would acknowledge the positives here. That Envoy is living up to the flow agreement and not only that, but has INCREASED it recently. Whether you like it or think so, the flow is working. No question about that at all. It's working exactly as specified in the agreement.

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    When will they send the 18 or 20 more from when they got rid of the 50 percent grievances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkvisual View Post
    When will they send the 18 or 20 more from when they got rid of the 50 percent grievances?
    Guess you must be out to lunch. Already happening.

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    No. They are doing the 29 a month now currently. Donít they also have to make up for another 9 before a certain time and another 9 before the last pp? I know Iím off on this but Iím not too far off.

    Relax hoss, itís good news for the sale your selling. Btw I canít afford to go out to lunch. I work at a regional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    What would be nice is if you and your buddies would acknowledge the positives here. That Envoy is living up to the flow agreement and not only that, but has INCREASED it recently. Whether you like it or think so, the flow is working. No question about that at all. It's working exactly as specified in the agreement.
    We do, what would be nice is if you and your buddies would acknowledge the negatives here, like reserve rules, pay, and many QOL issues.

    The flow was being metered (for no reason) up until the union signed the current LOA. The increase wasn't out of the goodness of the companies hearts, it was an agreement to a filed grievence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkvisual View Post
    No. They are doing the 29 a month now currently. Don’t they also have to make up for another 9 before a certain time and another 9 before the last pp? I know I’m off on this but I’m not too far off.

    Relax hoss, it’s good news for the sale your selling. Btw I can’t afford to go out to lunch. I work at a regional.
    They've actually been doing 30 a month for awhile now to make that 18 number. Even the 12/11 class will have 30 flows in it.

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    Unfortunately the flow was introduced to Eagle in 1998, wonder what is the real %?
    What year the first Eagle pilot flowed to AA?
    Last edited by NoOtPilot; 11-19-2018 at 07:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloosky View Post
    They've actually been doing 30 a month for awhile now to make that 18 number. Even the 12/11 class will have 30 flows in it.
    Lotís of Savings in payroll...11 years Captains replaced by street captains at 1st year pay.
    Last edited by NoOtPilot; 11-19-2018 at 07:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    From 2010 to date, 56% of flows to American Airlines have come from Envoy. A little factoid for the naysayers.
    You’ve put another balled-up sweatsock into your pants and are strutting around like John Holmes again. Your representation is misleading as hundreds of those flows (a huge percentage of the above) were part of a different flow equation (Letter 3) that was required by arbitrators and not part of what you are trying to sell to present dopes looking for nirvana where it isn’t.
    Last edited by Beagleboy; 11-19-2018 at 10:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiz5422 View Post
    Yet envoy is more then double the size of PDT and PSA, but we we only get a tad above 50% of the flows.

    Should be a higher percentage.....plus what are the hire dates of the PDT and PSA flows compared to the envoy flows?

    What is the percentage compared to ALL new hires? lost seniority waiting for the flow is a bigger factor.


    True facts would be nice if you are going to be throwing factoids out.
    In my new hire class, envoy was sending 2007 new hires while PSA flows were 2013 new hires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglepilot View Post
    In my new hire class, envoy was sending 2007 new hires while PSA flows were 2013 new hires.
    Yet you stayed at Envoy till you flowed...

    As long as pilots stay here (and come here), the company won't make a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglepilot View Post
    In my new hire class, envoy was sending 2007 new hires while PSA flows were 2013 new hires.
    Your point? You just got lucky in working for Envoy. You would never be hired anywhere else. Just count your lucky stars and leave this board. We don't need your negativity here.

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    Stating facts is negativity?
    Posting nothing but positives without answering questions and not admitting the negatives that do exist at envoy is laughable.
    Youíve got a lot of nerve making a demand that someone leave the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirsnacksalot View Post
    Stating facts is negativity?
    Posting nothing but positives without answering questions and not admitting the negatives that do exist at envoy is laughable.
    You’ve got a lot of nerve making a demand that someone leave the forum.
    No, he's right. All you flow bashers do is spew negativty, hate and vitriol here. The flow hasn't skipped a beat but if this board were the only source of info, a guy would think the flow is all but dead. Get a grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirsnacksalot View Post
    Stating facts is negativity?
    Posting nothing but positives without answering questions and not admitting the negatives that do exist at envoy is laughable.
    You’ve got a lot of nerve making a demand that someone leave the forum.
    I think the word you are looking for is PROPAGANDA.

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    Pravda style

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagleboy View Post
    You’ve put another balled-up sweatsock into your pants and are strutting around like John Holmes again. Your representation is misleading as hundreds of those flows (a huge percentage of the above) were part of a different flow equation (Letter 3) that was required by arbitrators and not part of what you are trying to sell to present dopes looking for nirvana where it isn’t.
    Hypocrite. You are constantly crying out for facts yet here he gives you hardcore known and published facts and you just p*$$ all over them.

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    Charlie Bucketís twins, one gets hire at Envoy and the other gets hire at PSA both with a November 20, 2018 DOH. When would they flow to AA?

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