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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOtPilot View Post
    Let’s compare 2017 vs 2018
    Why do we keep losing passengers to the competition?
    Well, not sure how the SA market has been considering various economies down there, but I would expect that to be a factor. IMO, most of the passenger ejections from AA are business travelers seeking a better product when they can. Soon Delta will be moving into DFW with that 220 from the East coast and staging out elsewhere poaching many business markets and I expect DFW business flyers to flock to that when they can. AA's mainline product now approximates Spirit and Eagle can't hold a candle to Delta, so no real options out there to improve that disadvantage. It may look small now, but if Delta plays their cards right (which they tend to do), over time they will eat away at AA who has few options to match. The true threat is that aircraft will allow them to do it profitably and AA either loses money to try and match it mainline or might eek a profit with Eagle, but with an inferior product.

    Soon, I think AA will have difficulty competing in more of their entrenched hubs for higher dollar business travelers and so the "retreat and circle the wagons" philosophy may not work for very long.

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    United Continental’s (UAL) expecting a fourth-quarter top and bottom-line results to continue benefiting from a healthy travel demand. For three consecutive quarters, the better-than-expected results have instilled analysts’ confidence in the stock.
    Analysts expect United Continental’s fourth-quarter sales to increase ~10%. The net income will likely grow 15.1%. United Continental’s sales expect to increase 9.1% to $41.2 billion. The net income is expected to increase 14% to $2.3 billion.
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    Delta Air Lines (DAL) has reported traffic growth in terms of passengers in every month of 2018 except January. Year-to-date through October, Strong traffic (passengers) growth in the domestic market drove the consolidated traffic last month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatloaf View Post
    Fleet count not increasing, but more seats jammed in the planes. Pilots getting 85 hour average line values being wrung out like regional dishrags 1000 hours/year. Envoy pilots will see little change in schedules going to AA except A LOT more backside of the clock flying.

    APA notified AAG of intent to open contract talks next month and expects quick deal. Rumor has it a roar of laughter was heard at Centreport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagleboy View Post
    Fleet count not increasing, but more seats jammed in the planes. Pilots getting 85 hour average line values being wrung out like regional dishrags 1000 hours/year. Envoy pilots will see little change in schedules going to AA except A LOT more backside of the clock flying.

    APA notified AAG of intent to open contract talks next month and expects quick deal. Rumor has it a roar of laughter was heard at Centreport.
    Is the fleet decreasing? Did AA hire over 800 pilots this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatloaf View Post
    Is the fleet decreasing? Did AA hire over 800 pilots this year?
    Mainline ? Yes it’s decreasing, but only by about 5. Yes, they hired 800. About 600 retired and they were short even before that. By flying the pilots more, they need extra. Still not enough from what’s being reported. Perpetually short-staffed and abused. APA will confirm this. AA has too much debt to bring on more mainline A/C. Parker says they will spend 5 Billion in 2019 and then expect CAPEX to drop to about 3 billion. If they make only 2-3.5 Billion next year, add more debt. That’s without new contracts for mechanics and pilots. The previous pay gift to AA pilots cost 650 million alone.

    So far, Parker’s profit claims have fallen short. Fingers crossed he’s not wrong yet again. If he is........oh well. Everything has to go right for AA over the next 5 years to get back to competitive financials.

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