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    JetBlue pilot contract contains a very similar wage scale as the Southwest deal. Hourly pay for captains currently ranges from $227 to $258 at Southwest. Airbus captains at JetBlue will now make between $225 and $259 per hour. The wage scales for first officers are also comparable.

    JetBlue Airways and Southwest Airlines now have similar pilot wage scales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOtPilot View Post
    JetBlue pilot contract contains a very similar wage scale as the Southwest deal. Hourly pay for captains currently ranges from $227 to $258 at Southwest. Airbus captains at JetBlue will now make between $225 and $259 per hour. The wage scales for first officers are also comparable.

    JetBlue Airways and Southwest Airlines now have similar pilot wage scales.
    Still slightly short of AA’s rates, but AA is inferior in other areas. Same with Spirit. As we can see, AA is competitive on pay rates with the other LCC’s and even in the ball park as a total package, even though inferior in certain (even critical) areas. Despite slightly lower rates, most pilots at those carriers will actually make more then AA pilots though considering scheduling efficiencies, bidding opportunities and profit sharing. Southwest and JetBlue arguably have better pilot cultures then AA too. AA is now an LCC from a narrow body comparison (Domestic and International) and thus it’s more accurate to compare them to their new peers from a pilot lifestyle standpoint. Their International widebody product isn’t Delta’s either to say nothing of the likes of British Airways, KLM, Emirates or Singapore just to name a few.

    Delta and United are the two surviving legacies with Delta holding THE bar for superior product and employee work environment among domestic US carriers. It’s difficult to say the least to envision how AA will ever return to premier legacy status with Delta and United considering the present philosophy and the future obstacles. The traditional “American Airlines” truly did pass away into history with the last BK and the arrival of a new management team geared toward a LCC identity and product, but this should be of no surprise as clearly that was and apparently still is the target of the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagleboy View Post
    Still slightly short of AA’s rates, but AA is inferior in other areas. Same with Spirit. As we can see, AA is competitive on pay rates with the other LCC’s and even in the ball park as a total package, even though inferior in certain (even critical) areas. Despite slightly lower rates, most pilots at those carriers will actually make more then AA pilots though considering scheduling efficiencies, bidding opportunities and profit sharing. Southwest and JetBlue arguably have better pilot cultures then AA too. AA is now an LCC from a narrow body comparison (Domestic and International) and thus it’s more accurate to compare them to their new peers from a pilot lifestyle standpoint. Their International widebody product isn’t Delta’s either to say nothing of the likes of British Airways, KLM, Emirates or Singapore just to name a few.

    Delta and United are the two surviving legacies with Delta holding THE bar for superior product and employee work environment among domestic US carriers. It’s difficult to say the least to envision how AA will ever return to premier legacy status with Delta and United considering the present philosophy and the future obstacles. The traditional “American Airlines” truly did pass away into history with the last BK and the arrival of a new management team geared toward a LCC identity and product, but this should be of no surprise as clearly that was and apparently still is the target of the future.
    Who gives a s***? It's Spirit or Jetblue. Nowhere close to AA. If you're dumb enough to give up an AA career for one of these then I'd like to talk to you about buying some oceanfront property I have out in Arizona.

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    Hey Ricardo or Chris or whatever you wanna call yourself... stfu already !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    Who gives a s***? It's Spirit or Jetblue. Nowhere close to AA. If you're dumb enough to give up an AA career for one of these then I'd like to talk to you about buying some oceanfront property I have out in Arizona.
    I would agree with you about jetBlue, but I wouldn't hang around waiting on the flow if I had a offer from Spirit. There are a lot of reg flags at AA. Spirit has some of the best RASM and CASM, AA has some of the highest CASM and the lowest RASM.

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    Oh dont asm him, he'll blow his brains out with all the computation required to come up with some bull shi+.

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