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    Tronos Aviation Consulting Inc., estimated that American could generate about $400,000 a year for each seat it adds to a plane, based on average fares and typical aircraft usage.

    The airline told investors last fall that adding seats to its Boeing 737-800 and Airbus A321 jets would bring in $500 million a year. JetBlue has estimated that boosting capacity on its A320s by 12 seats to 162 will increase annual revenue by about $100 million.
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    American Airlines is excited to announce a new low cost program of seating known as "Submarine Class". Passengers will be escorted by ramp agents into the forward and aft cargo compartments and will board when Group 10 is called. American plans on domestic routes on the B-737 and A-320 fleets initially and then expand Submarine Class fleet wide. BYOB: Bring your own blanket.

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    If thats the case, then Delta is making a really poor decision
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielr.../#da9b6af2db9c

    But wait, Delta...

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    Quote Originally Posted by snippercr View Post
    If thats the case, then Delta is making a really poor decision
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielr.../#da9b6af2db9c

    But wait, Delta...
    Delta is generating a different product and by virtue, a different reputation. They are branding themselves more of a premium carrier, whereas AA is quickly becoming an LCC. The AA coach product is clearly defined by jamming as many seats as possible into the plane and that includes International as anyone who has suffered in the back of a 787 can attest to. Delta seeks to compete more with International carriers targeting business travelers expecting to function at their destination instead of the Bermuda shorts/T-shirt crowd staggering off to tour.

    AA's pilots can expect a compensation package more like LCC's in the future as well.

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    I disagree with "quickly becoming a LCC"
    only because AAG was a whole has and is already an LCC trying to just stay above being called an ULCC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagleboy View Post
    Delta is generating a different product and by virtue, a different reputation. They are branding themselves more of a premium carrier, whereas AA is quickly becoming an LCC. The AA coach product is clearly defined by jamming as many seats as possible into the plane and that includes International as anyone who has suffered in the back of a 787 can attest to. Delta seeks to compete more with International carriers targeting business travelers expecting to function at their destination instead of the Bermuda shorts/T-shirt crowd staggering off to tour.

    AA's pilots can expect a compensation package more like LCC's in the future as well.
    Do you have your apps out? Seeing as how you think any LCC or legacy is a better place to be than AA, it seems like you should have your apps out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloosky View Post
    Do you have your apps out? Seeing as how you think any LCC or legacy is a better place to be than AA, it seems like you should have your apps out.
    If I worked at a Envoy I would most definitely have my apps out. In fact, I would be doing far more then that and be aggressive about cultivating other options. Doesn’t mean I’d necessarily accept another option, but options ARE critical. With no options, you HAVE no option. But having said that, it’s clear you are yet another who sees what you want to see and not what’s actually there, to wit, I have never said or implied “any LCC ir legacy is better then AA”, that’s just a rationalization that works for you to justify your erroneous conclusions about my points. As for legacies, Delta and United ARE better then AA from a compensation standpoint which is a proven fact. I’d argue both are better in treatment and QWL, especially Delta and in fact, that present disparity is likely to widen in the future.

    However for some, those metrics don’t matter and thus neither are better then AA for everyone as some may prefer AA for other reasons like domicile or perhaps just love its past legacy and identity which is now just a memory of the past and not present reality nor likely ever will be again. But, if that works for you and you are not interested in options should your hoped for insurance policy fail to pay off, I say go for it. Why ?

    You should know what you are doing and whether you accept it or not, you will live with the choices you make, the risks you take and the options you fail to bake. If passive hope pays off at some point in the future, congrats as there are still worse LCC’s to be at then AA. If it doesn’t, you have zero right to complain you’re being hosed as you chose your future. Good luck, I hope it pays off for you and the choices and risks AAG has made and taken don’t backfire for you.
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