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    Had someone in the JS yesterday that filled me in on this. Is it true? What's going on there?

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    More or less thatís what Iím hearing.

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    Well what did you hear,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardvark View Post
    Well what did you hear,
    Basically that Chris has become a tyrant company man. Didn't like Denise, he was involved in making job description changes for her position, which ultimately led to her forced retirement. I heard two assistant chief pilots quit as soon as they heard. Basically that Chris has become a pilot pusher, and even though his fingerprints weren't on it, was directly involved in the infamous fuel memo. Also giving step letters for non events, which directly affect the pilot's flow career.

    This is what I was told, take it for what it's worth. I was given a step 2 by Chris right before I flowed, for something that didn't deserve it. I didn't fight it because I was going to be gone very soon, but he was in the wrong in my opinion, and was basically faulting me for not flying fatigued.

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    Thank uou

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Lucky View Post
    Basically that Chris has become a tyrant company man. Didn't like Denise, he was involved in making job description changes for her position, which ultimately led to her forced retirement. I heard two assistant chief pilots quit as soon as they heard. Basically that Chris has become a pilot pusher, and even though his fingerprints weren't on it, was directly involved in the infamous fuel memo. Also giving step letters for non events, which directly affect the pilot's flow career.

    This is what I was told, take it for what it's worth. I was given a step 2 by Chris right before I flowed, for something that didn't deserve it. I didn't fight it because I was going to be gone very soon, but he was in the wrong in my opinion, and was basically faulting me for not flying fatigued.
    Sounds to me like another example of dysfunctionality where people with the wrong aptitude are in positions they shouldn’t be in, much like certain recruiters. Dysfunctionality tends to breed further dysfunctionality.

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    He flew as my FO years ago...struck me as a weak pilot...looks like he’s a weak manager too.

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    Wow, Iíd heard rumor...

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    I have doubts that a Chief Pilot can terminate or force retire anyone without some serious involvement from other elements in the company. Managers canít just go around canning people. There is a process to everything in a company this size to prevent/mitigate lawsuits. There always needs to be consensus on these types of situation.

    My guess is that there had to be a pretty significant trail of recorded performance issues, HR consults, interaction with managers above the supervising manager, etc. He canít just wake up one morning an fire someone...especially someone that is well-known throughout the flight ops department.

    Believe what you want about Chris, but Iíll bet thereís more to the story (that we will likely never know due to HR confidentiality).

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    Aaaaah haaaaaaa

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    Chris is a terrible chief pilot but Denise was a power tripping flight attendant. Iím conflicted.

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    So where did she land? Flying the line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robsquatch View Post
    So where did she land? Flying the line?
    She was fired. Can't work for AAG ever again supposedly. She's at home collecting unemployment instead of retirement despite being with the company 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglepilot View Post
    She was fired. Can't work for AAG ever again supposedly. She's at home collecting unemployment instead of retirement despite being with the company 20 years.
    Yes that's what happens when you are terminated. I see a lot of ORD crying about it, mostly from the people she played favorites to.

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    Sheís always been nice to me. He leaves a lot to be desired as a chief pilot in my opinion.

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    I will say this..... In my tenure here- she has been nothing but fake nice and off and on rude towards me. With that said- she kept that office running behind the scenes more than most will ever know and whenever I had an issue or problem- she had it fixed usually by the end of the day or before I even left the office. Regardless of what happened or what went down- I wish her the best. As well as the best to the office- they will have a hard time replacing someone with her years of experience and knowledge of the inner workings of the airline. It will be a bumpy road for awhile Iím sure though. Either way- stay positive and things always have a way of working out. Eventually...

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    Total BS! You should not post if you donít know the story. She was fired but was able to resign so she could keep her travel benefits but she can not and is not collecting unemployment pay or insurance. Get your facts straight

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglepilot View Post
    She was fired. Can't work for AAG ever again supposedly. She's at home collecting unemployment instead of retirement despite being with the company 20 years.
    Denise had a “retirement” package ?

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    Why did she get canned? I heard a captain that was letting FO's fly from left seat getting canned as well.

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    Well that capt knew the consequences.
    My question is the fo still employed since they also violated far's and company policy.

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