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    Oops, no pilots! Snafu puts thousands of American Airlines holiday flights in peril


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/b...cheduling.html


    November 29, 2017


    Thousands of American Airlines flights over the holiday season are in danger of cancellation because an error in the company’s internal scheduling system gave too many pilots time off, its union said on Wednesday.


    American was scrambling to fill the scheduling hole by offering pilots one and a half times their normal pay, said Gregg Overman, a spokesman for the Allied Pilots Association. But the union, which represents more than 15,000 pilots, filed a grievance, saying that the premium pay was not covered by its contract and that the airline couldn’t guarantee payment.


    It was not yet clear on Wednesday whether any flights would be canceled or delayed. Mr. Overman said about 15,000 flights from Dec. 17 to the end of the year were affected.


    “I’m sorry I can’t offer any guidance other than: Stay tuned,” Mr. Overman said. “And here’s hoping the folks running the airline come to us and are willing to sit down and work through it, because we don’t have a solution at this point.”

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    I noted this 5 days ago on the TTOT thread. Not surprisingly, it appears the first move (some would say it must be their instinct) was to essentially bypass the union leadership and negotiate directly with pilots by offering them something not agreed to by the union. It is hoped individual pilot greed will once again rule. IMO, the lesson for Envoy pilots here is that this demonstrates that once you flow to AA, you're for all intents and purposes when it comes to QWL just flowing to a larger regional whose management operates exactly as does here toward their pilots. The pay rates are higher because the aircraft have more seats, but make no mistake, IMO you need to understand you are NOT flowing to Delta, United, Southwest, FedEx or UPS who have vastly different attitudes toward their pilots which they appear to respect and consider an asset as opposed to a burden and/or liability. The culture toward pilots at AA is little different then at Envoy.
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    500% no less. They are the ones tweaking the software and oops everyone has Christmas off, remember when the flight Attendants all were assigned to work Christmas. It's management's fault, pay up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagleboy View Post
    I noted this 5 days ago on the TTOT thread. Not surprisingly, it appears the first move (some would say it must be their instinct) was to essentially bypass the union leadership and negotiate directly with pilots by offering them something not agreed to by the union. It is hoped individual pilot greed will once again rule. IMO, the lesson for Envoy pilots here is that this demonstrates that once you flow to AA, you're for all intents and purposes when it comes to QWL just flowing to a larger regional whose management operates exactly as does here toward their pilots. The pay rates are higher because the aircraft have more seats, but make no mistake, IMO you need to understand you are NOT flowing to Delta, United, Southwest, FedEx or UPS who have vastly different attitudes toward their pilots which they appear to respect and consider an asset as opposed to a burden and/or liability. The culture toward pilots at AA is little different then at Envoy.
    “...flowing to a larger regional whose management operates exactly as does here toward their pilots.”

    According to a Super 80 CA few days ago, “reassignments & Junior Manning” is becoming part of their operation. He said, “all line holders are on reserve. Careful with one leg days and two hours breaks between flights.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOtPilot View Post
    “...flowing to a larger regional whose management operates exactly as does here toward their pilots.”

    According to a Super 80 CA few days ago, “reassignments & Junior Manning” is becoming part of their operation. He said, “all line holders are on reserve. Careful with one leg days and two hours breaks between flights.”
    That's been going on for awhile. Scheduling is run very much like Envoy, at least from the sound of things here. For many, it's getting to be pointless bidding a specific trip because if there's a sit at one of the hubs greater then 1.5 hours (which is common), you're unacceptablly likely to be used to cover another trip discontinuity and then someone else covers yours, etc., etc. A Band-Aid philosophy is apparently in play to keep on-time performance numbers up. Just FYI, when they sold PBS to AA pilots, it was claimed it would give more pilots hard schedules, meaning less reserves and reserve would go more senior as they wouldn't fly as much. It hasn't happened that way at all from many reports and reserve remains as junior as before and every bit as brutal depending on the status. As usual, they went cheap and this is a major reason this is happening now along with general incompetence. When the PBS train makes its whistle stop tour to the Envoy station look for the same sales pitch..............and expect the same results.

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