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    Quote Originally Posted by Vne View Post
    He can care now and get ahead of the curve or he can care later, after the damage is done, according to what I hear. Wonder which way heíll go? If AAG would flow the maximum (even for those /()&$(;($&ing :$@@;:/;@Ďs at PoSA) and match + exceed the Endeavor (or anybody else for the foreseeable future) agreement theyíd be guaranteed to rake in months of new hires. As it is most that we hire are counting the days to get back to DFW. That base is the draw, flow isnít even tertiary as far as most are concerned.
    AAG doesnít decide if we flow at the maximum or metered amount. Envoy is the one that decides how many to send each month.

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    AAG doesnít decide if we flow at the maximum or metered amount. Envoy is the one that decides how many to send each month.
    True, thanks for the correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vne View Post
    True, thanks for the correction.

    ETA: If Envoy/AAG would match + exceed anything agreed to elsewhere by even 5% theyíd be killing it for the foreseeable future. That would make the pilot group and even the Dacujís of this world happy. Maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    AAG doesnít decide if we flow at the maximum or metered amount. Envoy is the one that decides how many to send each month.
    IMO, yes and no. Envoy is tasked to determine how many it can send and still meet their metrics (which is based on their subjective criteria), but AAG still oversees all aspects of its regionals and even though it relies on Envoy to communicate to them up the chain what they can and cannot do, AAG can green or red light increasing/decreasing flow rates. Just as with staffing, the same goes for ability to fly X amount of block hours. It's a symbiotic relationship and right now Envoy seems only to send minimum rate as they surely know of the serious pilot staffing risks of the future and are, in effect, "keeping their powder dry" with regard to conserving their pilot staff. In the past it was purely economics of getting the most bang for the buck out of every pilot, but now there is another more ominous component that is especially frightening as that is something they may not be able to control. They know attrition can be quite cyclical and unpredictable and say, next Spring/Summer if the other legacies, Southwest and/or the premium cargo carriers like FedEx and UPS go on a hiring spurt, it could impact Envoy very badly, especially considering the usual Summer staffing crunch at many airlines like AA and Envoy.

    AAG is well aware of this too and thus the present situation is a byproduct of both entities on the same page.

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