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    …PLUS 10%

    That is all.

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    Fair enough, I am with you

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    A 190 CA at AA makes an average of $163 for a 99 seater that is the equivalent of $1.64 per seat per hour. (163 divided by 99 seats).

    If you take $1.63 X 76 seats Envoy CA should make an average of $123 an hour. Delta is doing the right thing by paying mainline rates to their regional pilots. You will see American hiring those guys off the street. Wonder if Endeavor will be the fastest way to the Promised Land?

    Dacuj, I said faster not easier, we know who offer the easiest way to be an AA pilot.
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    Or the company can argue by the same formula for flying the 140, $1.63 x 44 = $ 71.72/hr or use are most populated fleet 1.63 x 50 = $ 81.50.

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    Endeavor gave 24 percent average pay increase across the board. What AA pays the 190 is irrelevant. 24 percent across the board pay increase at envoy at minimum plus all other items.

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    Biggest thing we can do is vote down the reserve LOA by a big margin, send a message to management that we aren't happy.

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    If you run the numbers for a 737 CA or Group II $251 divided by (average seats) 155 seats is $1.62. Just a fair number. So let's see what ALPA does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiz5422 View Post
    Biggest thing we can do is vote down the reserve LOA by a big margin, send a message to management that we aren't happy.
    ALPA will make sure it pass, we will not vote. You will see!

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    Everyone on property can vote no, alpa allows mec to tell pilot f u I am signing it.

    p.s. I would start at 737 top capt pay at 263 rather than 251.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ardvark View Post
    Endeavor gave 24 percent average pay increase across the board. What AA pays the 190 is irrelevant. 24 percent across the board pay increase at envoy at minimum plus all other items.
    If things continue the way they are going, Delta's regionals will soon have superior work rules then AA (some are already arguably better). Looks like the pay is already on par when considering the hourly rate/seat ratio already revealed here. It appears that at some point in the fairly near future, Envoy pilots will essentially be flowing to nothing more then a larger regional.
    Last edited by Beagleboy; 10-12-2017 at 01:19 PM.

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    very true.
    Sir, can I have another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagleboy View Post
    If things continue the way they are going, Delta's regionals will soon have superior work rules then AA (some are already arguably better). Looks like the pay is already on par when considering the hourly rate/seat ratio already revealed here. It appears that at some point in the fairly near future, Envoy pilots will essentially be flowing to nothing more then a larger regional.
    Oh no....don't tell that to Dacju.

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    Side note. Lines are out and they’re the same poo sandwich

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    and they can only get worse, but as dacuj would say, who cares we have flow. my toilet has flow too.
    Sir, can I have another.

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    Maybe they chose to displace to get a paid move? Who am I kidding

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    What we lost in the BK + Endeavor + 10%. Doug can think of it as an investment.
    Warlord of the crewroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vne View Post
    What we lost in the BK + Endeavor + 10%. Doug can think of it as an investment.
    We aren't an investment in his eyes, just a liability. Totally bass ackwards these days...

    Agreed though.
    Last edited by Jersdawg; 10-12-2017 at 08:19 PM.

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    republic rumored to 28% pay raise across the board beginning 2018, again rumor.
    Sir, can I have another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardvark View Post
    republic rumored to 28% pay raise across the board beginning 2018, again rumor.
    Honest question. What's their upgrade time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglepilot View Post
    Honest question. What's their upgrade time?
    Last I heard, about 3 years.

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