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    Just thought I would point out that there is a poll on APC asking if new hires prefer Envoy or Spirit.

    Envoy is blowing Spirit the f*** away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinsFan View Post
    Just thought I would point out that there is a poll on APC asking if new hires prefer Envoy or Spirit.

    Envoy is blowing Spirit the f*** away.
    Wow, neat. Thanks for the update.

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    Just wanted to point out that aside from the hate spewed here, other venues enjoy strong Envoy support.

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    59%-41% in favor of Envoy is hardly a landslide. Besides, this “poll” is meaningless due to unquantified data. First, it’s on an Envoy thread, so there’s slant towards Envoy. Second, many prolly don’t know firsthand the experiencing of benefits and/or drawbacks of either carrier, Third, it compares two different carriers AA and SWA as final goals and most importantly, it was probably started by an Envoy recruiter ghosting and propped up by Envoy recruiters, lackey’s and lapdogs as some of the “voters”.

    This is the era of fake news hoping to present the biases of those creating such to convince others their warped reality is or should be everyone’s reality.

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    Oh, not another fake poll again

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    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinsFan View Post
    Just wanted to point out that aside from the hate spewed here, other venues enjoy strong Envoy support.
    Spirit and Envoy are not the same category so not sure what the point is of the poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglepilot View Post
    Spirit and Envoy are not the same category so not sure what the point is of the poll.
    The point is. Envoy won hands down. All the vitriol spewed here is limited. To here. Most people are very happy with Envoy and the flow. And besides, going to Spirit over Envoy is the same as going to Mesa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinsFan View Post
    The point is. Envoy won hands down. All the vitriol spewed here is limited. To here. Most people are very happy with Envoy and the flow. And besides, going to Spirit over Envoy is the same as going to Mesa.
    Who cares? Did you really start a whole thread to point out an Envoy vs Spirit poll on another forum? How does that awesome news affect any of us? Does that match the proposed EDV pay rates, fix QOL, fix RSV, fix the schedules, give me my week of vacation I lost in the concessionary contract? You're really reaching in trying to spin this as great news? Honestly, who cares besides you salesmen? And it's not even a good sales pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinsFan View Post
    The point is. Envoy won hands down. All the vitriol spewed here is limited. To here. Most people are very happy with Envoy and the flow. And besides, going to Spirit over Envoy is the same as going to Mesa.
    There is another poll that shows Delta is better than Envoy!

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    The question on the poll should have been, if you had one choice and that's where you will end your career, which one would you select, envoy or spirit

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    ..........And it's not even a good sales pitch.
    But when it’s all he’s got, it will have to suffice. I laugh when he claims a few haters on this forum do not represent the sentiment at Envoy and then proceeds to embrace exactly that philosophy in opposition to support his position, namely a few “lovers” means Envoy is all tailwinds and Blue Skies.

    Rational objectivity isn’t in the sales repertoire of the common grifter, only the mechanics of the con.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardvark View Post
    The question on the poll should have been, if you had one choice and that's where you will end your career, which one would you select, envoy or spirit
    Totally ignorant statement. You would never end up at Envoy if you chose Envoy. You end up at American Airlines.

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    Too bad envoy management hasn't conducted exit interviews to figure out, ya know, why so many of our pilots left to go work at Spirit.

    How many pilots have left Spirit to work at envoy? Zero? One? I think that says all we need to know right there.

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    But when it’s all he’s got, it will have to suffice. I laugh when he claims a few haters on this forum do not represent the sentiment at Envoy and then proceeds to embrace exactly that philosophy in opposition to support his position, namely a few “lovers” means Envoy is all tailwinds and Blue Skies.

    Rational objectivity isn’t in the sales repertoire of the common grifter, only the mechanics of the con.


    Nobody asked your opinion con man. I know you think you are the holy grail of aviation knowledge with your 64 1/2 years of experience. But let me tell you, you are absolutely not. You are the real con force here. Thinking you are going to swing the whole of the Envoy pilot group against the company by posting here and on APC under 5 different screen names. At least on APC, nobody buys your baloney. Here, you have the rapt attention of about 14 total Envoy pilots who can never be satisfied no matter what kind of TA you bring to them.

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    Totally ignorant statement. You would never end up at Envoy if you chose Envoy. You end up at American Airlines.
    I'm sure that's what all of the guys here pre-9/11 thought. And about 300 will retire here.
    Last edited by TheTrinityDawn; 10-08-2017 at 08:04 PM.

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    Fish head, my question was appropriate and correct. As true poll question. You can still end up at United, delta and American faster through spirit than envoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTrinityDawn View Post
    I'm sure that's what all of the guys here pre-9/11 thought. And about 300 will retire here.
    That’s just, like, your opinion, man. Don’t you know that there’s no room for improvement here in aviation heaven? These guys remind me of Chip Diller in Animal House “ALL IS WELL! ALL IS WELL!”
    Warlord of the crewroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinsFan View Post


    Nobody asked your opinion con man. I know you think you are the holy grail of aviation knowledge with your 64 1/2 years of experience. But let me tell you, you are absolutely not. You are the real con force here. Thinking you are going to swing the whole of the Envoy pilot group against the company by posting here and on APC under 5 different screen names. At least on APC, nobody buys your baloney. Here, you have the rapt attention of about 14 total Envoy pilots who can never be satisfied no matter what kind of TA you bring to them.
    What kind of TA I bring to them ?

    I don’t have to resort to your tactics to “swing” anyone. No one knows Envoy better then the pilots that work there and they form their beliefs not by what someone who doesn’t work there thinks, but by their individual realities and I have nothing to do with that. In fact, didn’t Envoy ALPA just say as much about Envoy reality as the “14 pilots” here do ? I have to laugh once again as if you really believed all you claim above, you wouldn’t be banging flat spots into your paranoid cantaloupe over 64-year old know-it-all’s opining to 14 Envoy pilots, yet here you are with the squarest melon in the airline industry.

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