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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    You are making my case. Exactly. They wouldn't require you to wear an AA lanyard if you weren't an AAG employee. Do you see RAH or Mesa pilots wearing AA lanyards. I didn't think so.

    Goes back to AAG owns AA and Envoy equally. They need feed and Envoy provides that. You are hired as an AA pilot on Day ONE.
    AA pilots aren't required to wear AA lanyards. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360DD View Post
    AA pilots aren't required to wear AA lanyards. Go figure.
    Hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360DD View Post
    AA pilots aren't required to wear AA lanyards. Go figure.
    Snap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    You are making my case. Exactly. They wouldn't require you to wear an AA lanyard if you weren't an AAG employee. Do you see RAH or Mesa pilots wearing AA lanyards. I didn't think so.

    Goes back to AAG owns AA and Envoy equally. They need feed and Envoy provides that. You are hired as an AA pilot on Day ONE.
    You bring up two separate issues here. One is correct, one is not. Yes, we are AAG employees. That is correct. We are not hired as AA pilots, we are hired as Envoy pilots. And we are thereby compensated and provided benefits as an Envoy pilot which are vastly inferior from AA pilots. If everything keeps moving, we will be hired as an AA pilot years down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    You bring up two separate issues here. One is correct, one is not. Yes, we are AAG employees. That is correct. We are not hired as AA pilots, we are hired as Envoy pilots. And we are thereby compensated and provided benefits as an Envoy pilot which are vastly inferior from AA pilots. If everything keeps moving, we will be hired as an AA pilot years down the line.
    Why do you guys keep arguing with this mumbling idiot, if you've been here in property more than 48hrs you soon realize this is all horse manure, I'm starting to think most of you are either more so stupid than the idiot Dacuj, or you just dont have a F..ing life. Who cares what he says people are gullible and if they don't do their homework and only get their info from the miscreant dcuj so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIGHTWINGMAN View Post
    Why do you guys keep arguing with this mumbling idiot, if you've been here in property more than 48hrs you soon realize this is all horse manure, I'm starting to think most of you are either more so stupid than the idiot Dacuj, or you just dont have a F..ing life. Who cares what he says people are gullible and if they don't do their homework and only get their info from the miscreant dcuj so be it.
    Can't say that this isn't a valid point

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    Seems to me I've seen Republic, Mesa, Skywest, and a couple other pilot groups that also do AAG branded flying wearing AA lanyards. I guess they didn't get the memo stating that that makes them an AA pilot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIGHTWINGMAN View Post
    Why do you guys keep arguing with this mumbling idiot, if you've been here in property more than 48hrs you soon realize this is all horse manure, I'm starting to think most of you are either more so stupid than the idiot Dacuj, or you just dont have a F..ing life. Who cares what he says people are gullible and if they don't do their homework and only get their info from the miscreant dcuj so be it.
    It's both entertaining and fascinating at the same time. I'm waiting for his eventual jarring reintroduction to reality and the mental flame out that will surely follow.
    That said, you do have a valid point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
    It is pointless to argue with a person as Delusional as you obviously are.

    I don't disagree that the Envoy deal is the best one going right now; but stop trying to make it more than it is.
    It seems that you have forgotten the recent past. Let me remind you of a couple of your statements.

    "A new hire today will upgrade in 2.5 years and flow in 6."

    "It's a great time to be an Envoy pilot."

    I also remember you specifically arguing with eaglefly and aggressively defending the above. So now, someone else has picked up the torch and not only is the 2.5/6 now true, it's more like 2/5. And you find yourself one of the haters. Just freaking terrific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    It seems that you have forgotten the recent past. Let me remind you of a couple of your statements.

    "A new hire today will upgrade in 2.5 years and flow in 6."

    "It's a great time to be an Envoy pilot."

    I also remember you specifically arguing with eaglefly and aggressively defending the above. So now, someone else has picked up the torch and not only is the 2.5/6 now true, it's more like 2/5. And you find yourself one of the haters. Just freaking terrific.
    False. The guys that start in the next new hire class will be looking at close to an 8 year flow. And it will only go up without a change in how many flows we send per month to AA. Still waiting on you to explain your math for a 5 year flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    False. The guys that start in the next new hire class will be looking at close to an 8 year flow. And it will only go up without a change in how many flows we send per month to AA. Still waiting on you to explain your math for a 5 year flow.
    No math. Just lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    It seems that you have forgotten the recent past. Let me remind you of a couple of your statements.

    "A new hire today will upgrade in 2.5 years and flow in 6."

    "It's a great time to be an Envoy pilot."

    I also remember you specifically arguing with eaglefly and aggressively defending the above. So now, someone else has picked up the torch and not only is the 2.5/6 now true, it's more like 2/5. And you find yourself one of the haters. Just freaking terrific.
    Are you for real?
    All I've said is that you making claims of Envoy pilots being American pilots is false. Envoy pilots eventually get the opportunity to go to American without additional interviews as new hires. Your claims that Envoy pilots are AA pilots is wrong.

    I'm the one who said 2.5/6 was possible over two years ago if they played it correctly; they have. However, as others have pointed out, the sub 6 years flows have already been hired based on current contractual flow. It's already over 7 years for somebody hired today based on flow. Still a very good deal and a nice backup plan.

    If you'd stop lying so much, you'd probably find more support.
    Last edited by Cujo665; 07-09-2017 at 05:54 PM.
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    no I don't think so.
    Sir, can I have another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
    Are you for real?
    All I've said is that you making claims of Envoy pilots being American pilots is false. Envoy pilots eventually get the opportunity to go to American without additional interviews as new hires. Your claims that Envoy pilots are AA pilots is wrong.

    I'm the one who said 2.5/6 was possible over two years ago if they played it correctly; they have. However, as others have pointed out, the sub 6 years flows have already been hired based on current contractual flow. It's already over 7 years for somebody hired today based on flow. Still a very good deal and a nice backup plan.

    If you'd stop lying so much, you'd probably find more support.
    It's hard to say. I honestly don't know if he's a troll just stirring things up, just plain retarded, or just a slimy recruiter saying anything to make a sale. I honestly don't know at this point.

    By the way Cuj, how's it looking on you getting back to work?
    Last edited by schmuck; 07-09-2017 at 07:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    It's hard to say. I honestly don't know if he's a troll just stirring things up, just plain retarded, or just a slimy recruiter saying anything to make a sale. I honestly don't know at this point.

    By the way Cuj, how's it looking on you getting back to work?
    I've been here since 2006, held two volunteer positions in the union and am now on SA at HQ on Regent Blvd. I told you earlier in the year to gear up for a big announcement at the end of 2nd quarter. What happened? Only MIA and additional 175s and 140s. I know what I'm talking about. Unlike Mason32 whose nephew works at Eagle and who plays golf with Envoy execs. Sorry Cuj. I don't buy your mumbo-jumbo. You were flat out all in and selling this Envoy ride just as hard as I am. You are arrogant, pompous and totally full of horse manure now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
    Are you for real?
    All I've said is that you making claims of Envoy pilots being American pilots is false. Envoy pilots eventually get the opportunity to go to American without additional interviews as new hires. Your claims that Envoy pilots are AA pilots is wrong.

    I'm the one who said 2.5/6 was possible over two years ago if they played it correctly; they have. However, as others have pointed out, the sub 6 years flows have already been hired based on current contractual flow. It's already over 7 years for somebody hired today based on flow. Still a very good deal and a nice backup plan.

    If you'd stop lying so much, you'd probably find more support.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    I've been here since 2006, held two volunteer positions in the union and am now on SA at HQ on Regent Blvd. I told you earlier in the year to gear up for a big announcement at the end of 2nd quarter. What happened? Only MIA and additional 175s and 140s. I know what I'm talking about. Unlike Mason32 whose nephew works at Eagle and who plays golf with Envoy execs. Sorry Cuj. I don't buy your mumbo-jumbo. You were flat out all in and selling this Envoy ride just as hard as I am. You are arrogant, pompous and totally full of horse manure now.
    So....about how you come up with a 5 year flow????

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    So....about how you come up with a 5 year flow????
    So you buy Cuj's 2.5/6 but not 2/5? Unbelievable. I'm not sure you remember but another famous SA guy that's now on here stated a 5 year flow on APC about the same time I did.

    The projections were built by the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    It's hard to say. I honestly don't know if he's a troll just stirring things up, just plain retarded, or just a slimy recruiter saying anything to make a sale. I honestly don't know at this point.

    By the way Cuj, how's it looking on you getting back to work?
    I'm voting on just plain retarded!

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    Hey Dacuj, are you a pilot on special assignment? And did you volunteer for alpa or apa? You write like a famous fa that we all know.

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