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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr mojo View Post
    A small correction. The top 300+ haven't been flowing.
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    Not as a PP they'll lose everything and start over like us as NEW HIRES. No vac transfers, no sick time transfers or payout etc. that is a big loss just to say you retired from AA???

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    2nd year pay is $130 an hour plus 16% in your 401k. That's not a big loss.

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    Having to wait an extra 15 years for max vacation as opposed to the guy hired two classes before you only had to wait 12months.

    Kind of a big deal.

    And doesn't that 16% start 1 year after completing IOE for everyone outside of the 824 (not sure if that's still in place)
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    16% contribution starts day 1. You're just not vested for the first year.

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    Losing all your vacation and sick time is a big deal but overall it's a big gain. Not being treated like you're in high school is also nice.

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    There's no way around it. If you've got more than just a couple of years left, you're going to come out ahead financially at AA. Yes, you'll start back as a new hire as far as vacation goes. But with the new contract, new hires start at 3 weeks of vacation. And as I stated before, the company contributes 16% into your 401k right off the bat. The pay rates speak for themselves. If you've got some years left, it's not a bad move at all. But there are those that would rather finish out their career without having to go back to the right seat, don't want to commute, don't want to go to rsv, or don't want to learn a new aircraft. And there's nothing wrong with that either. But to say it's stupid to make the move because you'll lose some sick time and a week or two of vacation "just to say you retired at AA" is absurd. By the time those guys are on year 3 pay, they'll be making over $160/hr with 16% of that being thrown into the 401k. There are tons of guys that could change their mind with 5-10 years or more left. That's a lot of potential money to be had.

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    There is a point in life when money are not at the top of priorities anymore...

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    Are you 100% sure the 401k starts day one. Buddy who is going said he was told no 401k for 1st year.

    Just asking I no longer have a copy of your contract.

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