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    Great update from Ric today. Tremendously good news and more proof (if you needed it) that things are going in the right direction.


    Exciting times here at Envoy! With flow to American planned to exceed 300 Envoy pilots this year, we are on track to upgrade close to 450 new Captains and hire 650 new pilots. This means approximately 1,100 long-term training events this year, versus the 500 events we accomplished last year.

    This increased training requirement has driven us to evaluate our current training processes to ensure that we are being as efficient as possible with our simulator and pilot resources. I am pleased to announce that we will be adding three new Graphical Flight Simulators (GFS) to our Embraer 145 training platform. This will advance our E145 training profile to the same level as our E175 training program. Additionally, we have decided to add Professional Simulator Instructors (PSI) to augment our existing staff and handle training events. This concept is not a new one in the industry, as many regional and mainline carriers already follow this practice including American Airlines. These new PSIs will be limited to training events only, allowing us to tap into a different pilot supply without further depleting our line pilot resources. All checking will continued to be performed by our ALPA seniority list Check Airmen, with no planned reduction in our existing ALPA seniority list. This will maximize our flying capabilities for American and promote rapid career progression for existing pilots, by enabling more Captain upgrade opportunities.

    Obviously, this is a substantial initiative and will take some time to roll out. We will begin recruiting for these new PSI positions immediately, and anticipate that you will start to see some of these changes incorporated into our training later this Fall.

    These changes will not impact our CRJ-700 training program, based on the current fleet plan which has us transitioning out of the aircraft.

    On a related topic, we are quickly reaching the capacity of our E145 simulators in DFW and Houston. Therefore, we have identified capacity with a simulator located in France and will begin running some of our qualified upgrades through this facility by mid-summer. The facility is located in Morlaix, approximately a 4-hour train ride outside of Paris. As soon as we iron out logistics, we will communicate the travel arrangements, schedule profile, hotel accommodations and other pertinent information needed for this international training event.

    All of these initiatives are designed to meet an increased demand for training which is a testament to the progress and positive developments here at Envoy. Thank you for all you do every day to make Envoy such a great airline.

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    "These changes will not impact our CRJ-700 training program, based on the current fleet plan which has us transitioning out of the aircraft."

    Yeah, great news.

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    Dacuj is a turd that won't dry up and blow away. He is the type that if he spent 5 dollars to find 5 cents, its a positive for him. Hope the instructors in France bring along a lot of bail money for I see a constant visit to the Bastille.

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    What good news? This email isn't really good or bad... it's just an update on some training changes. What's with the excitement, da****j?

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    But it's only a 4 hour train ride following an 8 hour flight and a trip through Le Customs. With that and the time change, pilots will undoubtedly arrive rested and ready for a jeopardy training and checking event.

    Also, are PSIs allowed by the current but oft violated CBA?

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    Mec waiver coming, wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11yrpay-WentToUA View Post
    But it's only a 4 hour train ride following an 8 hour flight and a trip through Le Customs. With that and the time change, pilots will undoubtedly arrive rested and ready for a jeopardy training and checking event.

    Also, are PSIs allowed by the current but oft violated CBA?
    This seems like a violation of the 16 hour duty day to me...DH to CDG - ten hours plus (for everyone except east coasters), clear customs - two more hours, then a four hour train ride...that's 16 hours right there! Guessing they will split it up for an overnight at CDG, but who knows.

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    I'd imagine dacuj had a hard-on for Ric.

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    True, doesn't the contract state we can't be schedules for more than 14?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil View Post
    What good news? This email isn't really good or bad... it's just an update on some training changes. What's with the excitement, da****j?
    Some of you guys have serious mental issues. The best news out of this is the PSIs, the main advantage moving forward is that we won't need to sacrifice line flying Captains to meet our increasing training demands. This will help staffing on all ends.

    Upgrades are not slowing down, that's part of our increased flying and continuing flow to AA. PSIs allow us to cover both areas without sacrificing any staffing. Period. And...read continue the flow.

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    "Continue the flow"? I thought the flow was untouchable because it's black and white contractual, as you've said over and over again. Please explain that last statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    Some of you guys have serious mental issues. The best news out of this is the PSIs, the main advantage moving forward is that we won't need to sacrifice line flying Captains to meet our increasing training demands. This will help staffing on all ends.

    Upgrades are not slowing down, that's part of our increased flying and continuing flow to AA. PSIs allow us to cover both areas without sacrificing any staffing. Period. And...read continue the flow.
    Let's ask dacuj if he thinks quality of life is good here and doesn't require any improvements?
    Any of the alter egos can answer as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF View Post
    Let's ask dacuj if he thinks quality of life is good here and doesn't require any improvements?
    Any of the alter egos can answer as well.
    You are sure good at talking a big game. Do YOU even work here? Amazing that I don't really find the problems here that all of you incessantly complain about. You sure have a loud bark but we know there's no bite. You also have zero credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    You are sure good at talking a big game. Do YOU even work here? Amazing that I don't really find the problems here that all of you incessantly complain about. You sure have a loud bark but we know there's no bite. You also have zero credibility.
    Dude, seriously? You can't find ANY of the QOL problems that exist at envoy? ANY?! LOL and then you say someone else's credibility is low? HA!

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    Zero credibility?!
    What type of line are you holding?
    Do you commute?
    What's your relative seniority?
    You talk a big talk for someone who is beyond clueless if you think there aren't serious QOL issues here for EVERYONE from the most junior to the most senior on the list.

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    Dacuj touts PSI as good news, maybe to his anal mind, but in reality PSI is do to the mass exodus of instructors. PSI will have allegiance to RW only, Flying captains are noy sacrified when their function is to teach but the PSI is to relieve pilots from instructing and get back to the line flying being that training is running 8 months behind, you need to get these upgrades through to tout your 2.5 bull.

    P.s. Chicago envoy maintenance is closing and is being taken over by guess, skw mx. We will have on call mx, in other word's none.
    Ord envoy days are limited.
    Qol will go to the toilet as will schedules, but dumb f u c k dacuj the shi+ head he is wonr understand because he is NOT A LINE PILOT OR WAS EVER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    Great update from Ric today. Tremendously good news and more proof (if you needed it) that things are going in the right direction.


    Exciting times here at Envoy! With flow to American planned to exceed 300 Envoy pilots this year, we are on track to upgrade close to 450 new Captains and hire 650 new pilots. This means approximately 1,100 long-term training events this year, versus the 500 events we accomplished last year.

    This increased training requirement has driven us to evaluate our current training processes to ensure that we are being as efficient as possible with our simulator and pilot resources. I am pleased to announce that we will be adding three new Graphical Flight Simulators (GFS) to our Embraer 145 training platform. This will advance our E145 training profile to the same level as our E175 training program. Additionally, we have decided to add Professional Simulator Instructors (PSI) to augment our existing staff and handle training events. This concept is not a new one in the industry, as many regional and mainline carriers already follow this practice including American Airlines. These new PSIs will be limited to training events only, allowing us to tap into a different pilot supply without further depleting our line pilot resources. All checking will continued to be performed by our ALPA seniority list Check Airmen, with no planned reduction in our existing ALPA seniority list. This will maximize our flying capabilities for American and promote rapid career progression for existing pilots, by enabling more Captain upgrade opportunities.

    Obviously, this is a substantial initiative and will take some time to roll out. We will begin recruiting for these new PSI positions immediately, and anticipate that you will start to see some of these changes incorporated into our training later this Fall.

    These changes will not impact our CRJ-700 training program, based on the current fleet plan which has us transitioning out of the aircraft.

    On a related topic, we are quickly reaching the capacity of our E145 simulators in DFW and Houston. Therefore, we have identified capacity with a simulator located in France and will begin running some of our qualified upgrades through this facility by mid-summer. The facility is located in Morlaix, approximately a 4-hour train ride outside of Paris. As soon as we iron out logistics, we will communicate the travel arrangements, schedule profile, hotel accommodations and other pertinent information needed for this international training event.

    All of these initiatives are designed to meet an increased demand for training which is a testament to the progress and positive developments here at Envoy. Thank you for all you do every day to make Envoy such a great airline.
    Wow. Is this a tall order or a tall tale ?

    Let's face it, it's fair to ask if this source has told some tall tales in the past. But OK, let's look again at some math; 450 captains and 650 new-hires is 1100 training events. 1100 events like that should each require 25 hours of IOE which is about 27,500 hours of IOE needed this year. This would require about 29 IOE check airman flying solely IOE for 80 hours each and every month throughout the year to move pilots through the training pipeline to completion. How far ahead or behind are they so far ? If they are behind in that metric, it only means more IOE above these figures to catch-up by years end. Considering some of these non-IOE simulator aspects like these new outsourced training instructors won't be on-board and up to speed for awhile, perhaps late Fall, the claims in this sugar plum of an announcement look dubious, at least to me. To add more weight to this theoretical camel with the already broken back, many check airman would theoretically be cycling through to AA as supposedly over 25/month will be flowing and IOE check airman are captains.

    Who knows, perhaps someone will indeed pull a rabbit out of a hat (or a simulator) and meet these meteoric claims, but I'm not convinced. IMO, the math remains fuzzy and the claims remain bombastic. Perhaps my math is off, but I can't connect the dots on this.
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    Here is my QOL. I have been here 13 years. For my last two Envoy trips, I have to commute the day before AND commute home the day after. Suck on that Dacuj.

    Hit that mothah fu**in' green thumbs up button if you other Envoy pilots are in a similar boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
    Some of you guys have serious mental issues. The best news out of this is the PSIs........
    The best news for whom?

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    Really, why is dacuj selling envoy to current envoy pilots. Should it not be to newbies. They want us to stick around so they can allow the other feeders to grow gradually into our scheduled flying and the COMAIR II us.
    You see how things changed here when Kirby left, Isom just picked up the mantel and went running. Skw is as large as envoy is system wide and skw is still growing and envoy has reached its premature ejaculation and shriveled up.

    Thank you dacuj

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