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    American cuts international capacity growth to boost unit revenue
    Market Realist By Teresa Cederholm

    American Airlines plans to reduce capacity in the international markets in which unit revenue growth is negatively impacted by excess capacity.

    American is planning to reduce capacity in Latin America. The airline trimmed the 12% year-over-year capacity growth plan and plans to reduce capacity by ~2% in 4Q14.
    Even in the Atlantic market, American changed its plan to grow capacity by 5%. The latest plan is to reduce capacity by 2% in 4Q14.



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    Hmmmmm. Could this mean less flow?

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    wait til the end of 2016 when they start pulling out of some hubs.
    AA=9
    DAL=5
    UCAL=4

    AA is not going to keep 9 hubs. less flow would be a positive, i see no flow.
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    Only 4 hubs for UCAL? Check again. EWR, HOU, SFO, DEN, ORD, CLE, IAD, Guam. That doesn't include the independent FA bases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ardvark View Post
    wait til the end of 2016 when they start pulling out of some hubs.
    AA=9
    DAL=5
    UCAL=4

    AA is not going to keep 9 hubs. less flow would be a positive, i see no flow.
    I understand the point you're making that AA is going to close some Hubs which will affect staffing, but does that mean less people travel? If the same amount of people travel, you're going to need the same amount of pilots.

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    i would not call guam or cle a hub. forgot sfo and den will last only as long the city pays for united to be there.
    but your point is made.
    Sir, can I have another.

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    This will have no impact on flow and should help to increase profits.

    There is no planned reduction in overall capacity, this is a shift in the allocation of capacity. The South American and Atlantic markets had lower PRASM than did domestic and Pacific markets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fo4life View Post
    I understand the point you're making that AA is going to close some Hubs which will affect staffing, but does that mean less people travel? If the same amount of people travel, you're going to need the same amount of pilots.
    How about if you increase the price$$$$?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    This will have no impact on flow and should help to increase profits.

    There is no planned reduction in overall capacity, this is a shift in the allocation of capacity. The South American and Atlantic markets had lower PRASM than did domestic and Pacific markets.
    Airlines continually adjust capacity it is an ongoing task... The Forever No's" have to use anything to discredit any gains we could ever make. It is just doom and gloom from those guys.

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    I do believe all those airplanes in order may help answer your question.

    Anyone else notice the 757's are getting painted. I'm pretty sure those were marked for the grave.

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    Stuck with the old planes, that only means something is not going as planned with the new deliveries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOtPilot View Post
    Stuck with the old planes, that only means something is not going as planned with the new deliveries.
    What is oil doing? I refer you to DAL DC-9's. Not a case of being stuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchard View Post
    What is oil doing? I refer you to DAL DC-9's. Not a case of being stuck.
    In that case, our 145's aren't as obsolete as we thought, are they?

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    the e135's make money now.
    Sir, can I have another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllisonRR View Post
    Airlines continually adjust capacity it is an ongoing task... The Forever No's" have to use anything to discredit any gains we could ever make. It is just doom and gloom from those guys.
    you have not made any gains. what you have is a program (flow) which requires aa to have new hire classes for which you get seats in. if aa capacity is being reduced for what ever reason the requirement for new hire classes reduces since capacity has been reduced, unless it shifts elsewhere.

    here are the facts, yes or no vote.

    1. capacity reduction is due to consumer is expecting fare price drops due to fuel price decline, they are not going to get that, what management has done is reduce capacity and kept the price for tickets high. profits from drop in fuel cost go up, and profits from ticket prices staying high keep going up. not even aa pilots control this. but flow requires capacity to remain the same or increase to keep flow moving.

    2. aa pbs will require less staffing due to the enhance efficiencies of pbs gives management. less staffing, less new hire classes if any needed. again you gains in flow wont work.

    3. AA pilot internationalatioinal and domestic staffing will no longer be seperate they will be merged, another staffing requirement reduction. again less new hire classes for the flow to work if any are had.

    refrencing your gains in flow are so dependent of what aa does and you have no real idea of what will be and neither do I but these are published facts of what aa is or going to do.

    what else do you consider gains in the TA?
    Sir, can I have another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardvark View Post
    you have not made any gains. what you have is a program (flow) which requires aa to have new hire classes for which you get seats in. if aa capacity is being reduced for what ever reason the requirement for new hire classes reduces since capacity has been reduced, unless it shifts elsewhere.

    here are the facts, yes or no vote.

    1. capacity reduction is due to consumer is expecting fare price drops due to fuel price decline, they are not going to get that, what management has done is reduce capacity and kept the price for tickets high. profits from drop in fuel cost go up, and profits from ticket prices staying high keep going up. not even aa pilots control this. but flow requires capacity to remain the same or increase to keep flow moving.

    2. aa pbs will require less staffing due to the enhance efficiencies of pbs gives management. less staffing, less new hire classes if any needed. again you gains in flow wont work.

    3. AA pilot internationalatioinal and domestic staffing will no longer be seperate they will be merged, another staffing requirement reduction. again less new hire classes for the flow to work if any are had.

    refrencing your gains in flow are so dependent of what aa does and you have no real idea of what will be and neither do I but these are published facts of what aa is or going to do.

    what else do you consider gains in the TA?
    Increased stability compared with what we have today.

    A fleet commitment.

    An increase on flow.

    A bonus that covers all concessions unless everyone plans to stay at ENY 10+ years. (Ardvark we know you would be unhappy no matter where you end up)

    Get rid of the PTO.

    Kick PBS down the road.

    If anything your cheer leading for a NO vote proved is that pilots can care less about the pay caps, work rules or the regional industry.

    You fought the good fight but you lost and in the process managed to lose 87 jets and the Miami base. Good job

    Reduction on capacity doesn't mean reduction on hulls or crews required.

    Take it for whatever you want I am sure you will spin it off, go ahead.

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    actually you lost them when you changed scope.
    miami was know to be going to rah for the e175 many moons ago but you were asleep at the wheel.
    BK had all the 135's, e140's being parked along with the older e145's, known item. over a year ago we were told the crj's are leaving.

    you gave them the bk contract and they gave you rah for 12 year deal and lax closed and dfw had ejt move in. those are the facts before this past year of negotiations.

    vote yes, IDGAF. wont hurt me one way or the other that i can make it up.

    but live with facts and not b.s. illusion of greener pasture's over the hill.
    Sir, can I have another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardvark View Post
    actually you lost them when you changed scope.
    miami was know to be going to rah for the e175 many moons ago but you were asleep at the wheel.
    BK had all the 135's, e140's being parked along with the older e145's, known item. over a year ago we were told the crj's are leaving.

    you gave them the bk contract and they gave you rah for 12 year deal and lax closed and dfw had ejt move in. those are the facts before this past year of negotiations.

    vote yes, IDGAF. wont hurt me one way or the other that i can make it up.

    but live with facts and not b.s. illusion of greener pasture's over the hill.
    Ardvark is upset! you will be OK don't get an ulcer over it.

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    i wont, but you might in about 8 months.

    what happens when there is nothing but facts to argue over, nothing the argument is finished. you vote yes, i vote no. your point for it is we cant do any better and i understand that more than you know.

    we will all know 23 december.
    Sir, can I have another.

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