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    NY UNITY EVENT
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    New York will be holding a special unity event on August 6th from 10am until 2pm at LGA. Volunteers are needed in large numbers to help make this a successful event. Pilots from ALL Domiciles are invited to attend. Pilots from a few other carriers are also being invited to attend. The Envoy MEC-SPC and LEC121 Strategic Planning Committees are organizing this event.

    Please email Tom.Knox@alpa.org and Steve.Wills@alpa.org with your name, email address, phone number, and hours of availability that day. If there are enough volunteers the unity event will be extended to earlier and later hours. You need not be available the whole period; any time you can volunteer would be appreciated. The committee will organize a schedule with 1 hour blocks. Fill as many or few blocks with your time as you can. Please plan on being in full uniform (including hats), blazer optional. Contact James, Tom and Steve for additional details and to volunteer.


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    So does this mean the negotiations went poorly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinsol0 View Post
    So does this mean the negotiations went poorly?
    No, this has been in the works a while
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinsol0 View Post
    So does this mean the negotiations went poorly?
    I don't even see how they are able to negotiate this week. Sprague is in every base with these unity meet and greets. Plus, he's in the next batch to flow. I wouldn't expect much from these talks...

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    The MEC will be meeting tomorrow to review the offer.
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    we have hats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie View Post
    I don't even see how they are able to negotiate this week. Sprague is in every base with these unity meet and greets. Plus, he's in the next batch to flow. I wouldn't expect much from these talks...
    Negotiations.......where did you hear that ?

    Last word was "informal discussions" and now there's an "offer" with a review meeting scheduled already.

    Was there a communique announcing the receipt of an offer ?

    The last time when an offer was received (on a Friday), the MEC announced they would review it the following Monday at a meeting, then announced that Monday an AIP was in place after "fast and furious negotiations". Based on that, I'd say there's a good chance another AIP will be in place prior to this next meeting to "review". It seems "notification after the fact" may still be the union M.O.

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    Deleted. Double post for some reason.
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    I agree. It's a leap from informal discussions to having an offer on the table. Sounds like we missed the negotiations and AIP part.

    ...or is this where we negotiate from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flugschlafen View Post
    I agree. It's a leap from informal discussions to having an offer on the table. Sounds like we missed the negotiations and AIP part.

    ...or is this where we negotiate from?
    They made an opening offer. There have not yet been any negotiations.
    The MEC will meet tomorrow to review their opening offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
    No, this has been in the works a while
    From another thread, but it's why I asked

    "Cujo had said that previously picketing events had been postponed to not ruffle the wrong people. Their (management) proposal apparently ruffled the union's enough that it is time to go back on the offensive."

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    Email the two organizers in the original post if you will be attending. Include
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    This is starting to sound like SSDD. Crap final, final, final, final offer with a side dish of take it or leave it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flugschlafen View Post
    This is starting to sound like SSDD. Crap final, final, final, final offer with a side dish of take it or leave it.
    Wrong thread

    If you'll be attending just email in per the original post. This is your chance. Everybody always wants to go picket or pamphlet. Here it is. Contact the organizers above.
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    Cujo, u say it is an opening offer...which is fine.....but the last TA that was offered really was the final offer.....and the realistic person that I am I don't expect anything different this time....it will be take it or leave it and "we ain't coming back".......til the fat lady sings....

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinsol0 View Post
    From another thread, but it's why I asked

    "Cujo had said that previously picketing events had been postponed to not ruffle the wrong people. Their (management) proposal apparently ruffled the union's enough that it is time to go back on the offensive."
    Cujo?

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    Your Envoy MEC leadership invites you to join them at the LaGuardia Plaza Hotel. All pilots are welcome and encouraged to attend.

    When: Wednesday: August 6, 2014
    Time: 4 to 7 pm EDT
    Where: LaGuardia Plaza Hotel
    104-04 Ditmars Blvd
    East Elmhurst, NY 11369
    718-457-6300

    Please RSVP before noon CDT on Tuesday, August 5th
    If you plan to attend please RSVP to ENYUNITY@alpa.org or call 817-685-7474, select 4 when the auto-attendant answers. Please provide your name, ALPA or employee number, that it is for the NY event and how many will be in your party. Thank you.
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    PILOT UNITY EVENT & MEET-N-GREET

    UNITY EVENT
    On Wednesday, August 6th from 10AM until 2PM the NY LEC is sponsoring a pilot unity event at LGA. We will be conducting Informational Pamphleting/Picketing. The purpose of this event is to show unity and to educate the public that our industry currently has a pay shortage, not a pilot shortage. There are thousands of pilots available who simply choose to work elsewhere, in other fields or even in other countries, rather than work for poverty level wages and horrendous working conditions. The regional airline industry is the perfect example of corporate greed in America destroying a profession; then turning to their employees and government to bail out and subsidize their greed driven mistakes.

    Email Tom.Knox@alpa.org or Steve.Wills@alpa.org if you will be attending the Unity event portion of the day at all. We need an accurate count for the port authority, so even if you are only going to stop in for a few minutes, please email Tom & Steve.

    We will muster in the exit hallway near the upstairs food court that leads from the doors to the hanger complex. Do not come join the pamphleting/picketing on your own. You must meet with a Team Leader or Team Captain at either the food court area near Dunkin Donuts or the hallway from the hanger to the curb prior to joining the event. If you leave the event, please advise a Team Leader or Team Captain on your way out so a replacement volunteer may be sent. More detailed instructions will be forwarded as the event day approaches. We have invited pilots from other airlines to attend, and the response has been very good.


    MEET-N-GREET
    Your Envoy MEC leadership invites you to join them at the LaGuardia Plaza Hotel. All pilots are welcome and encouraged to attend.

    When: Wednesday: August 6, 2014
    Time: 4 to 7 pm EDT
    Where: LaGuardia Plaza Hotel
    104-04 Ditmars Blvd
    East Elmhurst, NY 11369
    718-457-6300

    Please RSVP before noon CDT on Tuesday, August 5th
    If you plan to attend the Meet-N-Greet portion of the day please RSVP to ENYUNITY@alpa.org or call 817-685-7474, select 4 when the auto-attendant answers. Please provide your name, ALPA or employee number, that it is for the NY event and how many will be in your party. Thank you.


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