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    Florida GOP Leaders Say Voter Law Was Designed To Keep Away Democrats


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    No surprise here except that they admit it. Suppressing voting and actively seeking to deprive Americans of their right to vote seems very anti-American to me. It goes against everything our Founding Fathers sought.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/voter...lorida-2012-11
    Former Gov. Charlie Crist and former Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer, both of whom are on the outs with the party, admitted "that fraud concerns were advanced only as subterfuge for the law?s main purpose: GOP victory," the Post reported Sunday.

    ?The Republican Party, the strategists, the consultants, they firmly believe that early voting is bad for Republican Party candidates,? Greer told The Post. ?It?s done for one reason and one reason only. ? ?We?ve got to cut down on early voting because early voting is not good for us.? They never came in to see me and tell me we had a (voter) fraud issue. It?s all a marketing ploy."

    Other Republicans repeated this claim to The Post.

    The Florida law, which required a photo ID to vote and cut down on early voting, was advertised as a way to combat voter fraud, CNN reported in October.

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    And the Libs don't play dirty voting games huh? Give me a break. Next topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KEITH STONE View Post
    And the Libs don't play dirty voting games huh? Give me a break. Next topic.
    Nice straw man argument. Who says the Libs don't play dirty games? So you are defending these dirty games because the Libs do it to? You don't see how unethical or unAmerican that is?

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    Just keeping it fair and balanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KEITH STONE View Post
    Just keeping it fair and balanced.
    By playing dirty games, violating every principle set by our Founding Fathers? A race to the bottom of ethics, morals and any semblance of traditional American values? That's not the values of the Republican Party I joined over 35 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wind View Post
    By playing dirty games, violating every principle set by our Founding Fathers? A race to the bottom of ethics, morals and any semblance of traditional American values? That's not the values of the Republican Party I joined over 35 years ago.
    No, just keeping this argument fair and balanced. Some of the tactics deployed by both parties to garner every last vote are deplorable at best. I don't condone it any way, and I feel the voting process is filled with irregularities. The old farts in FL still can't seem to figure out how to tally a vote. There are various groups camped outside of polling stations intimidating voters. There are questionable volunteers. It's a mess, but it's our mess.

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    It's not just Florida playing these games with our election process:

    http://www.thenation.com/blog/171690...ctoral-college
    In the wake of Romney’s defeat and the backfiring of GOP voter suppression efforts, Pileggi is resurrecting his plan (albeit in a slightly different form) and the idea of gerrymandering the Electoral College to boost the 2016 GOP presidential candidate is spreading to other GOP-controlled battleground states that Obama carried, like Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin. Thanks to big gains at the state legislative level in 2010, Republicans controlled the redistricting process in twenty states compared to seven for Democrats, drawing legislative and Congressional maps that will benefit their party for the next decade. (The Brennan Center for Justice estimates that Republicans picked up six additional House seats in 2012 due to redistricting.) Republicans now want to extend their redistricting advantage to the presidential realm.
    http://www.thenation.com/blog/171146...ssion-strategy
    Since the 2010 election, Republicans passed new voting restrictions in more than a dozen states aimed at reducing the turnout of Barack Obama’s “coalition of the ascendant”—young voters, African-Americans and Hispanics.

    “This is not rocket science,” Bill Clinton said last year. “They are trying to make the 2012 electorate look more like the 2010 electorate than the 2008 electorate.” By pushing voter suppression laws, Republicans wanted the 2012 electorate to be older, whiter and more conservative than the young and diverse 2008 electorate.

    But the GOP’s suppression strategy failed. Ten major restrictive voting laws were blocked in court and turnout among young, black and Hispanic voters increased as a share of the electorate relative to 2008.

    Take a look at Ohio, where Ohio Republicans limited early voting hours as a way to decrease the African-American vote, which made up a majority of early voters in cities like Cleveland and Dayton. Early voting did fall relative to 2008 as a result of Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted’s cutbacks in early voting days and hours, but the overall share of the black electorate increased from 11 percent in 2008 to 15 percent in 2012. More than anything else, that explains why Barack Obama once again carried the state.

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