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    I could see a slow down in hiring, or temporary...

    I could see a slow down in hiring, or temporary hiatus in ab economic slow down, but not another lost decade. The number of retirements all but guarantees movement at AA (and all of the majors) over...
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    Every pilot after 12/24/14 should be aggressively...

    Every pilot after 12/24/14 should be aggressively seeking employment outside of the flow through. Those in the L1011 should be pressing for interviews at other carriers if they want to be there, but...
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    That 9.2 years is assuming there’s no OAL...

    That 9.2 years is assuming there’s no OAL attrition. Given the desire for pilots to move up in the industry, there has to be some OAL attrition, but it’s pretty difficult to put that into the...
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    Nah dude, keep posting. The "I can't tell which...

    Nah dude, keep posting. The "I can't tell which side of this never-ending feud between various shills" group of posters are the ones that generally provide the most reasonably accurate information...
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    Notwithstanding the frivolousness of such a...

    Notwithstanding the frivolousness of such a lawsuit, the current membership is so apathetic that all they’ll do is b!tch on Facebook and other forums about their discontent. I doubt I’ll see anybody...
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    NoOT, I still don’t understand this 5/mo...

    NoOT, I still don’t understand this 5/mo prediction. Yeah, I know it’s 5 for the first 480 on the seniority list, but then it’s also an additional 1 for ever 125 over that. At our current size, isn’t...
  7. Thread: AIP and RW

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    My understanding is that RW was not directly...

    My understanding is that RW was not directly involved with the negotiations. That said, I’d be mildly surprised if he weren’t aware of the events transpired.
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    The TWU mechanics are going on 4.5 years of...

    The TWU mechanics are going on 4.5 years of negotiations now...
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    Would you like to share with the rest of the...

    Would you like to share with the rest of the class?
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    I would love to be enlightened. What concessions...

    I would love to be enlightened. What concessions you believe to be in the AIP?
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    lol this is ridiculous. Why would the company...

    lol this is ridiculous. Why would the company walk from a deal full of concessions? If ALPA were truly in bed with management, we’d have a signed deal with language in effect already. What do you...
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    So AA will only be hiring 20/mo beginning in 2020...

    So AA will only be hiring 20/mo beginning in 2020 is what you’re saying?
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    It drops to 15/mo for the pilots hired between...

    It drops to 15/mo for the pilots hired between 10/11/11 and 12/24/14, which is about 150 pilots. After that the formula kicks in and it should be more like 20-22 depending on AA class size (based on...
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    "AMR, the parent company of American Airlines and...

    "AMR, the parent company of American Airlines and American Eagle, has approximately $4.1 billion in cash on hand to pay creditors. "
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  15. Thread: Skywest ta

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    My understanding was that they only hired 50...

    My understanding was that they only hired 50 pilots at AA in June, so we sent 25. As far as I’m aware (and I’m pretty sure this is accurate), either 29 or 30 have gone in July, August, and September...
  16. Thread: Skywest ta

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    So long as AA hires 57 or more pilots in...

    So long as AA hires 57 or more pilots in December. I’m not entirely convinced they’re hiring that many. I wouldn’t be surprised if they only did one class of 30 or 40 pilots, leading to a lower...
  17. Thread: Skywest ta

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    He has been, for a while, proclaiming of some...

    He has been, for a while, proclaiming of some drastic event taking place in 2021 at AAG, but has not once publicly announced what that event is or why it will happen. I would like for Nostradamus,...
  18. Thread: Skywest ta

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    This is incorrect - so long as 57 or more pilots...

    This is incorrect - so long as 57 or more pilots are hired at AA, Envoy gets 29 for the month. (50% rounded up to the nearest pilot). But even if they hire 59+ we will only get 29.
  19. Thread: Skywest ta

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    From management’s perspective... yeah, exactly. ...

    From management’s perspective... yeah, exactly. Why the eff would they increase their labor costs if there’s no problem retaining or attracting pilots all while enjoying excellent performance? ...
  20. Thread: Skywest ta

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    That the industry continues to trend in the right...

    That the industry continues to trend in the right direction is all fine and dandy, but the reality is that none of the wholly owned carriers are going to get any durable wage increases until AAG...
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    I’m interested to see this evidence you have that...

    I’m interested to see this evidence you have that the flow will stop. Although I think flipper and Dacuj are often (almost always) way off base, I also think the assertion that the flow will stop...
  22. Thread: Delta flow

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    I’m sure there’s some tricky fine print in there,...

    I’m sure there’s some tricky fine print in there, but I haven’t read the details yet
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    I was here when 15-01 was being negotiated (I...

    I was here when 15-01 was being negotiated (I voted no on that one as well, btw), but I always read that as 50% but the company could limit to 25, and there were no metrics dictating that. I was...
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    Right, I forget that there are people who no...

    Right, I forget that there are people who no longer work at Envoy that continue to frequent these forums for some reason. The back and forth with Dacuj muddied the waters a bit as I didn’t know...
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    I think pragmatism sometimes outweighs catharsis,...

    I think pragmatism sometimes outweighs catharsis, which is important to realize with this company. You definitely seem to have a chip on your shoulder, but pontificating about your displeasure with...
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