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  1. Actual Envoy Pay Rates vs Republic & Endeavor

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  2. Thread: Flow & Honor

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    Flow & Honor

    Can you trust a company run by a CEO with 3 DUI’s, the same company that walks away from a signed AIP, to honor a flow?

    In memory of...
    “The 125 Group”
    “The 254 Group”
    Never forgotten.

    All...
  3. PRIA forms in High demand, applications are down....

    PRIA forms in High demand, applications are down.

    Fact!
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    Yup! Taking mainline flying away! E75’s “The...

    Yup! Taking mainline flying away!

    E75’s “The Mainline Killer”
  5. If Envoy Pilots were expecting a pay raise...

    Think AAGain!

    https://www.dallasnews.com/business/business/2019/07/11/judge-orders-union-fine-discipline-american-airlines-mechanics-cause-delays-cancelations

    Not even a “Tough Union” can bend...
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    Envoy vs Republic/Endeavor

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  8. Flight attendants at AA regional carrier PSA approved a new contract

    The PSA contract covers about 1,300 flight attendants and gives pay raises of 6% to 19%

    senior FA’s will make on average about $41,820.

    "This mutually-beneficial agreement is an important step...
  9. Thread: AIP Update

    by NoOtPilot
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    AIP Update

    July 16th, 2019

    “It has been publicized that Envoy has lofty fleet plan goals.”

    -Total fleet of 150 E175’s (1,700 total pilots ~)

    “Envoy are among the lowest paid in the industry,”

    -no...
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    You are 100% correct, “known” is the key word,...

    You are 100% correct, “known” is the key word, SEC fillings show growth. The problem is what they are not showing or they don’t want you to know. Is a simple tactic call “Marketing Distraction” to...
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    Check your PM.

    Check your PM.
  12. Thread: AIP and RW

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    Pilots that ask this type of questions, do not...

    Pilots that ask this type of questions, do not deserve to be APA members.
  13. Thread: AIP and RW

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    You are going to need a lot of help, you can only...

    You are going to need a lot of help, you can only hide the truth for so long. The truth keeps coming out, and in 18 months after the PP and 1011 pilots flow...the fun will begin and the pyramid...
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    Envoy Pay Compensation

    to remain unchanged in accordance with CBA.
    Amendable in 2024.

    AAG
  15. Thread: AIP and RW

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    Yup! Enjoy the ride...because envoy only have 18...

    Yup! Enjoy the ride...because envoy only have 18 months to sell the flow, then reality hits. Like I said, PP and 1011 will flow. The problem begins after they are gone.

    NO PAY RAISES In the...
  16. Thread: AIP and RW

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    ALPA has absolutely nothing to bring the company...

    ALPA has absolutely nothing to bring the company back to the table or honor the signed AIP, so here is the plan...hopefully this will scare the company and come running back to the table.

    July...
  17. Thread: AIP and RW

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    There are NO legal resources that could get ALPA...

    There are NO legal resources that could get ALPA to enforce the signed AIP or get company back to the table.
    Pilots are on their own.

    Company played ALPA...AAgain!
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    Any guarantees that Envoy or the regional...

    Any guarantees that Envoy or the regional Industry is going to be around that long?
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    PP and 1011 are The Last of the Mohicans.

    Pyramid scheme

    A form of investment (illegal in the US and...
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    The flow is not going to be a problem for the...

    The flow is not going to be a problem for the PP’s or the 150 after them...the problem will begin after 2020...for now all you can do is keep selling the flow to keep staffing levels above water,...
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    And no consolidation among the WO.

    And no consolidation among the WO.
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    New 2020 Pay Rates

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    It’s a great time to be an envoy pilot.
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    And this is the standard answer, that will...

    And this is the standard answer, that will confused anyone that asks about what happens after the 150 pilots when it drops to 5 a month...”we will never go to 5 a month” a quote from many recruiters....
  23. I think he means this... ...

    I think he means this...

    https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1700690001
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    The Real “Time to Flow” formula.

    Previously we flowed 50% of all AA new hire positions. They had a tad over 3800 retirement the first 6 years of the "new" flow. 1/2 of that is 1900 pilots at AA to come from Envoy in that six years....
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    Like I said, NO PAY RAISES in the horizon.

    Like I said, NO PAY RAISES in the horizon.
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