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    Woah woah woah. You’ve been saying 2021 for a...

    Woah woah woah. You’ve been saying 2021 for a while now, you can’t just say 2021+ now.

    I say if AA doesn’t declare bankruptcy in 2021 as you’ve been predicting, you get banned. If they do, we...
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    Nah, just did it. All handflying, slow flight,...

    Nah, just did it. All handflying, slow flight, stalls, bounced landings. I was actually pretty impressed with it.
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    https://www.envoyair.com/2019/07/24/envoy-and-air-...

    https://www.envoyair.com/2019/07/24/envoy-and-air-line-pilots-association-reach-deal/

    http://aviationtribune.com/airlines/north-america/envoy-air-and-alpa-reach-deal-increasing-pilot-pay/

    😘
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    True, there’s just no reason to lie about the...

    True, there’s just no reason to lie about the numbers in the contract. On either side.
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    😑

    😑
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    Again, Cujo said he knows how the flow works but...

    Again, Cujo said he knows how the flow works but didn’t want to confuse people like the recruiters do, so he went with a static 15 flow per month, saying at 3k pilots it would take 16.6 years. At 3k...
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    Ehhh that’s a little disingenuous, when you said...

    Ehhh that’s a little disingenuous, when you said

    “If it's 3000 pilots like you say it will be that is a 16.6 year flow.”
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    Yep, just letting you know what the actual...

    Yep, just letting you know what the actual contract says.
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    Cujo, if we are just going by strictly what the...

    Cujo, if we are just going by strictly what the contract says, the flow only goes to a hard 15 a month for 150 people, which is about one year.

    After that it’s 25% of new hire class, the cap...
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    “The flow rate is 25% of the new hire class at AA...

    “The flow rate is 25% of the new hire class at AA with a company cap of 5 plus 1 pilot for every 125 pilots over 480 on our list per month that may be waived by the company.”
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    Would you say AA is understaffed or overstaffed...

    Would you say AA is understaffed or overstaffed at the moment? Do you think they should be hiring, or do you think new hires should be worried about furloughs?
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    Okay.

    Okay.
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    Or the economy tanking, or another 9/11. Lots of...

    Or the economy tanking, or another 9/11. Lots of bad things can happen, which is good to talk about and keep in mind when making your decisions. Also keeping in mind that 3/4 of the AA pilot group...
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    Yep, No hiring in August, which means no flows....

    Yep, No hiring in August, which means no flows. Your other post says

    “Appears the flow has stopped...
    Temporarily! In the mean time, AA keeps hiring off the street.😡”

    This is false. If AA...
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    I keep a set of them in my kitbag for last turns...

    I keep a set of them in my kitbag for last turns of the trip
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    Factually incorrect, and once again you have no...

    Factually incorrect, and once again you have no proof to back up your outright lies.
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    Why not give your actual background, perhaps to...

    Why not give your actual background, perhaps to lend credence to your statements?
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    Fellow Envoy Pilots, Understandably, there...

    Fellow Envoy Pilots,

    Understandably, there have been growing questions over the progress of attaining compensation similar to what PSA pilots have received. Since the news broke almost a month...
  19. “Union flow list predicts a 4/2016 hire to flow...

    “Union flow list predicts a 4/2016 hire to flow 3/2021. Actually almost the shortest flow of the whole damn group. Lucky guy, if it works”

    I was saying that hire date has the shortest projected...
  20. Yes, you’ve made that pretty clear. All 7 people...

    Yes, you’ve made that pretty clear. All 7 people that still use this website know.
  21. Union flow list predicts a 4/2016 hire to flow...

    Union flow list predicts a 4/2016 hire to flow 3/2021. Actually almost the shortest flow of the whole damn group. Lucky guy, if it works
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    The flow hasn’t stopped... You’re a liar. ...

    The flow hasn’t stopped...

    You’re a liar.

    End of this thread.
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    Okay, so that didn’t address your original...

    Okay, so that didn’t address your original statement; You are saying next month there will be street hires but no flows?

    Or are you confused that there haven’t been more selections for the pool,...
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    You lack credibility when you post things like...

    You lack credibility when you post things like this, deliberately trolling. If you want to combat “dacuj” and the like, do it through facts as opposed to veiled statements and falsehoods.
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    Yep, some guys at PDT and PSA have gotten to cash...

    Yep, some guys at PDT and PSA have gotten to cash their ticket. In a year or two that 5-6 year group is supposed to be flowing at Envoy, but yes, anything can happen.

    As you always say.

    I was...
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